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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cam Kerry and Rick Boucher are available to assist on this if certified to us. They are both following the Washington situation closely.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan Carter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2015 11:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Avri Doria<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get Expert Advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The sooner the better. All the others are players in this drama.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Jordan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 29 September 2015 at 16:20, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 28-Sep-15 22:35, Steve DelBianco wrote:<br>
> Ed — An excellent idea. In fact, Cam Kerry and Rick Boucher could<br>
> advise CCWG via email right away. Their insights could help us plan<br>
> what we do in the days leading to Dublin.<br>
><br>
> From: <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>>> on behalf<br>
> of Edward Morris<br>
> Reply-To: "<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>>"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">> Date: Monday, September 28, 2015 at 9:46 PM<br>
> To: Accountability Cross Community<br>
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get Expert Advice<br>
><br>
> Hello everybody,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Some of the unknowns facing this group going forward are as much<br>
> political in nature as they are substantive or procedural. Do we take<br>
> the opinion and perspective of Senator Ted Cruz seriously? Is it a<br>
> threat to the transition? Is there something that we can do to be<br>
> responsive to the genuine concerns of Senator Cruz? Are his concerns<br>
> genuine?<br>
><br>
> What about the NTIA? The deference shown to Secretary Strickling among<br>
> some of us here is almost Papal in nature. What did Larry say, how did<br>
> Larry say it, what did he really mean when he said it but really<br>
> didn't say it. It's a bit ridiculous. I admire Secretary Strickling.<br>
> He's a fine civil servant. His published salary, though, is less than<br>
> that of a first year associate from a decent law school at a mid sized<br>
> corporate law firm. He is not the all mighty. Commerce and the NTIA<br>
> are complex places. Larry has absolute control of neither.<br>
><br>
> I've read here today a legal analysis of the Senator's Constitutional<br>
> challenge by someone I know to be neither an American nor a lawyer. I<br>
> can click both boxes and I have my views but am I sure I'm right? No.<br>
> It seems everyone here has an opinion as to what the NTIA will or will<br>
> not accept from us. Do any of us really know? No.<br>
><br>
> Prior to the Los Angeles meeting it was suggested that we might want<br>
> to hear from ICANN's lobbyists, that they could explain to us their<br>
> version of political reality. We properly rejected that offer. I think<br>
> we've reached the point, though, where we do need to call upon the<br>
> expertise of some Washington political professionals to help guide us<br>
> through this part of the process. No more guesswork by amateurs or<br>
> implied threats by those with some self-interest in the matter. We're<br>
> talking about who is going to run a vital part of the most powerful<br>
> communications technology in human history. We need to do this<br>
> right. Fortunately, we've already retained two such individuals who,<br>
> if we wish, have the expertise and ability to assist us in this area.<br>
><br>
> Back in the early days of this project when we were all young,<br>
> innocent and hopeful :) we retained not one but two law firms to help<br>
> guide us. In retrospect that decision and two firms we chose to<br>
> hire were amongst the best decisions we've made in this CCWG. I have<br>
> complete faith in our lawyers and that is a rarity for me. I<br>
> note that one of the specific reasons we hired Sidley was for their<br>
> Washington ties and expertise. During our interviews with the firm we<br>
> were able to meet two of their professionals with the greatest<br>
> knowledge of DC and government operations : Cam Kerry (<br>
> <a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">> <<a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a>>) and Rick Boucher<br>
> ( <a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher</a> ). Both men were extremely<br>
> impressive. It is time to tap their talents. We need serious advice<br>
> in these areas from serious professionals.<br>
><br>
> I would respectfully ask our Chairs and the full CCWG to consider<br>
> inviting either Rick or Cam to Dublin to meet with the CCWG early in<br>
> the week, preferably during the initial F2F. I think it's important<br>
> that everyone has a chance to question them. We need this type of<br>
> policy expertise from a politically astute professional who owes a<br>
> duty of care to us, no one else, and whose rolodex allows him or her<br>
> to reach out to those whose decisions will most impact our work.<br>
> We need to know what political reality is if we are to maximise our<br>
> potential as a very special and unique group dedicated to helping<br>
> create a truly open and accountable governance mechanism for this<br>
> small part of the networked world.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for considering.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Ed Morris<br>
><br>
><br>
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