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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Mathieu, Thomas, Leon,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Could we add this to AOB on tonite’s call ? Thanks Ed for the idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This link is worth reading <a href="http://www.thedomains.com/2015/09/29/sen-cruz-asks-the-gao-to-determine-whether-obama-has-the-power-to-give-away-the-internet/">http://www.thedomains.com/2015/09/29/sen-cruz-asks-the-gao-to-determine-whether-obama-has-the-power-to-give-away-the-internet/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Personally I think it would be a good idea to invite Kerry and Boucher to Dublin to meet with/ present to the CCWG- if not before.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Shears<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2015 14:53<br><b>To:</b> Greg Shatan; Jordan Carter<br><b>Cc:</b> Avri Doria; Accountability Cross Community<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get Expert Advice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Absolutely agree.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28/09/2015 23:36, Greg Shatan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Time to activate this part of the team.<br><br>On Monday, September 28, 2015, Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The sooner the better. All the others are players in this drama. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jordan<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 29 September 2015 at 16:20, Avri Doria <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@acm.org');" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>+1<br><br>On 28-Sep-15 22:35, Steve DelBianco wrote:<br>> Ed — An excellent idea. In fact, Cam Kerry and Rick Boucher could<br>> advise CCWG via email right away. Their insights could help us plan<br>> what we do in the days leading to Dublin.<br>><br>> From: <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>>> on behalf<br>> of Edward Morris<br>> Reply-To: "<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','egmorris1@toast.net');" target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>>"<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> Date: Monday, September 28, 2015 at 9:46 PM<br>> To: Accountability Cross Community<br>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get Expert Advice<br>><br>> Hello everybody,<br>><br>><br>> Some of the unknowns facing this group going forward are as much<br>> political in nature as they are substantive or procedural. Do we take<br>> the opinion and perspective of Senator Ted Cruz seriously? Is it a<br>> threat to the transition? Is there something that we can do to be<br>> responsive to the genuine concerns of Senator Cruz? Are his concerns<br>> genuine?<br>><br>> What about the NTIA? The deference shown to Secretary Strickling among<br>> some of us here is almost Papal in nature. What did Larry say, how did<br>> Larry say it, what did he really mean when he said it but really<br>> didn't say it. It's a bit ridiculous. I admire Secretary Strickling.<br>> He's a fine civil servant. His published salary, though, is less than<br>> that of a first year associate from a decent law school at a mid sized<br>> corporate law firm. He is not the all mighty. Commerce and the NTIA<br>> are complex places. Larry has absolute control of neither.<br>><br>> I've read here today a legal analysis of the Senator's Constitutional<br>> challenge by someone I know to be neither an American nor a lawyer. I<br>> can click both boxes and I have my views but am I sure I'm right? No.<br>> It seems everyone here has an opinion as to what the NTIA will or will<br>> not accept from us. Do any of us really know? No.<br>><br>> Prior to the Los Angeles meeting it was suggested that we might want<br>> to hear from ICANN's lobbyists, that they could explain to us their<br>> version of political reality. We properly rejected that offer. I think<br>> we've reached the point, though, where we do need to call upon the<br>> expertise of some Washington political professionals to help guide us<br>> through this part of the process. No more guesswork by amateurs or<br>> implied threats by those with some self-interest in the matter. We're<br>> talking about who is going to run a vital part of the most powerful<br>> communications technology in human history. We need to do this<br>> right. Fortunately, we've already retained two such individuals who,<br>> if we wish, have the expertise and ability to assist us in this area.<br>><br>> Back in the early days of this project when we were all young,<br>> innocent and hopeful :) we retained not one but two law firms to help<br>> guide us. In retrospect that decision and two firms we chose to<br>> hire were amongst the best decisions we've made in this CCWG. I have<br>> complete faith in our lawyers and that is a rarity for me. I<br>> note that one of the specific reasons we hired Sidley was for their<br>> Washington ties and expertise. During our interviews with the firm we<br>> were able to meet two of their professionals with the greatest<br>> knowledge of DC and government operations : Cam Kerry (<br>> <a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>> <<a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a>>) and Rick Boucher<br>> ( <a href="http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher</a> ). Both men were extremely<br>> impressive. It is time to tap their talents. We need serious advice<br>> in these areas from serious professionals.<br>><br>> I would respectfully ask our Chairs and the full CCWG to consider<br>> inviting either Rick or Cam to Dublin to meet with the CCWG early in<br>> the week, preferably during the initial F2F. I think it's important<br>> that everyone has a chance to question them. We need this type of<br>> policy expertise from a politically astute professional who owes a<br>> duty of care to us, no one else, and whose rolodex allows him or her<br>> to reach out to those whose decisions will most impact our work.<br>> We need to know what political reality is if we are to maximise our<br>> potential as a very special and unique group dedicated to helping<br>> create a truly open and accountable governance mechanism for this<br>> small part of the networked world.<br>><br>> Thanks for considering.<br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>> Ed Morris<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br>> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org');" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br><br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org');" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jordan Carter<br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>+64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob)<br>Email: <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan@internetnz.net.nz');" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>jordan@internetnz.net.nz</span></a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Web: <a href="http://www.internetnz.nz">www.internetnz.nz</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><i>A better world through a better Internet </i><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Matthew Shears<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Center for Democracy & Technology <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>+ 44 771 247 2987 <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 11.25pt 0cm 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Description: Image removed by sender. 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