<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt"> Bruce</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><br></p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt"><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">Thank you
much for your vision and thoughtful messages</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">You are now
becoming the most vocal Board Member in this regard for which I personally
thank you .</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">However, It
is difficult to really understand your position.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On the one
hand you severely and strongly </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">supporting MEM</span></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">One other hand you have referred to the advantages
of multiple memberships versus sole membership.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">These two ideas are not compatible.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">May you clarify your position pls ?<br>
Moreover, the multiple membership requires that each SO and Ac forms
an Unincorporated Association which was found very complex and
unimplementable that is why such approach was stopped in favour of MSM.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">Do you suggest that CCWG review its position again?</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">What we need to do is to fully understand how MEM functions
and ensure that it has a legal validity</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><span><font size="3">1.</font><span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">re is a need to fully </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2 There is also
a need to indicate in a flow chart7 diagram the stepwise course of action
to be taken as proposed in MEM</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.1 For petition in each SO and
AC</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.2 The way that A given petition
is executed and decided upon (voting together with the associated threshold
versus consensus, based on the procedure currently applicable in each SO
and AC) </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.3 The follow up actions on
petition in Forum, including the participation at the Forum</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.4 Formation of Issue Member
Group</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.5 Composition of that Group</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.6 Decision making (voting
together with the associated threshold versus consensus) </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.7 Whether the decision is taken
would need to be discussed in the Standing Panel mentioned in the board
proposal together with the size, composition and threshold of decision making.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">2.8 Which SO and which Ac are decision making and
which are advisory </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">3 Does the
Board have a last word on the decision/ outcome of Issue Member Group? If yes
why?</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">4 Does the
Issue Member Group has any fiduciary responsibility 7 authority?</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">5. What is the real difference between MEM and MSM?
If the difference relates to non-voting ability of ACs? .Is the difference is
that in MEM approach the implementation 7 binding action of the decision is
made is subject to the discretion of the Board?. If yes, does it means that the
community does not have a real power to impose its decision to the Board?.</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">6<span> </span>In
the MEM, Board proposed that the outcome from petition and the outcome from
Issue Member Group IS valid ,if no advice received against it from an AC .</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">7<span> </span>What
is the relation between Standing Panel and Independent Review Panel/ Process?</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">8<span> </span>.Don’t
you believe that the Issue Group <span> </span>Member is
some type of the Sole Members </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">9<span> </span>Having
heard the views of CCWG in LA, does the Board have a way out to arrive at an
acceptable consensus? i.e. something between the MEM and MSM?</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">Regards</font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><font size="3">Kavouss </font></span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
<br></font></p></span><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><br></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-04 13:50 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn" target="_blank">tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="FR" vlink="purple" link="blue">
<div>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Bruce,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">You say you prefer a full membership
model where each SO and AC becomes a member rather than a sole membership model
because it concentrates all the powers in the hands of a single entity. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I don’t think it is the best way to
avoid capture: In case we have each SO and AC becoming a member, all those
members will have the full statutory rights and can at anytime exercise them including
before the Californian courts. The SOs or ACs that have a big interest
(financial, political, etc.) may use their member right to force the board to
act for their own narrow interest.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">In the sole membership model, no power is
allowed to a single SO or AC; they can’t act separately. Any power
exercise would be the result of the community consensus (any form of consensus
including voting). So no capture is possible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The only risk would be if all the
community is not represented in the sole member decision making, but this is
the same risk for the full membership model where you would have only some SO/AC
becoming members of ICANN.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(54,95,145);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I don’t say that the sole
membership model is the best, but if I compare it to the full membership model,
I would prefer it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(23,54,93)">Tijani BEN JEMAA<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(23,54,93)">Executive Director<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>-----Message d'origine-----<br>
De : <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] De la part de Bruce
Tonkin<br>
Envoyé : samedi 3 octobre 2015 08:32<br>
À : <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
Objet : [CCWG-ACCT] Personal thoughts on sole member</p><div><div class="h5">
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>Hello All,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>The following is NOT a Board view.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>My personal thoughts on sole member is that I prefer a
broader membership structure to a sole membership structure.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>For me - a sole member concentrates all the
responsibilities of membership into a single legal entity. I much prefer more
distributed membership structures that are more likely to represent the broader
Internet community. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>I am not aware of any similar Internet based body that
operates under this model. I have been on the Board of several non-profit
organizations over the past 20 years in a range of areas from sport to research
to business, and I have never personally had any experience in this model. I
have also done several company director courses and I have never had this model
come up in presentations or discussions.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>The sole member model also doesn't seem to particularly
fit the current SOs and ACs that often have different interests and areas of
focus For example SSAC and RRSAC have quite narrow mandates to look at
particular technical issues. They do not generally get involved in ICANN
strategic plans, operating plans, budgets, and naming policies.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>I think it is far better that SOs and ACs participate in
the ICANN model as themselves. I think we can empower each of these groups in
our bylaws in appropriate ways.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>If the CCWG really wants to go down the single member
model, then I would prefer a much more formal structure.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- make the single member an incorporated entity<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- set the articles of incorporation up to ensure that
the single member has a fiduciary responsibility to the Internet community as a
whole. I.e. align its fiduciary responsibility to ICANN's fiduciary
responsibility<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- have a board of the single member with the same
structure as ICANN - with SOs and ALAC appointing directors, set up a nominating
committee (or use the one we have) to select 8 directors, and have liaisons
from GAC, SSAC, RSSAC and IETF.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- include in its bylaws its mission (to be a member of
ICANN), and processes it will use to reach decisions and consult with the
community<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>If this is sounding like what we already have - then that
is not surprising.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>I feel that it is certainly legally possible to create a
sole member - but it is practically highly unusual, and also seems completely
unnecessary in that we already have a Board that does much the same thing.
The Board listens to all parts of the community before making major decisions,
and acts for the benefit of the Internet community as a whole.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>So vmy preference order is:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- leverage the governance model we have and refine to
have additional powers for the SOs and ACs in the bylaws, have a binding IRP
mechanism if any SO or AC feels that board is not following the bylaws, and
set up a mechanism to ensure that IRP decision is legally enforceable. This
is broadly the current Board proposal.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- move to a full membership model with appropriate
diversification and participation of members that include infrastructure
operators and users, with appropriate culture and geographical diversity<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>- use a sole member model - with a fully incorporated
member and clear fiduciary responsibilities. Set up the board of the sole
member with an equivalent level of governance as we have with the Board of
ICANN.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Bruce Tonkin<u></u><u></u></p>
<p> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
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