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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The notes, recordings and transcripts for the WP-<span style='color:#1F497D'>2</span> meeting on 5 October will be available here: <span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/555YAw">https://community.icann.org/x/555YAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>A copy of the notes may be found below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you<span style='color:#1F497D'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Brenda<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:22.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Notes</span></strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></h3><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>--These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BBurr - Going over agenda slide. Funding costs, accessibility and independence and interlinked at some level.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Need to be certain that the dependence issue is on solid ground.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Is costing sustainable?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Is IRP really accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>The Board comment (MEM and IRP are essentially the same for us) ICANN bare the cost the community requests and that traditional request from the commercial sector continued to be carried by both parties with the panel having discretion to allocate costs based on the merits of the case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>These issues should be summarized in a document for Dublin.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Re: Reconciling conflicting decisions of expert panels - ICANN suggesting that the policies should address this instead of IRP. This is good but should the IRP be the backstop in case some issues are not covered in the policy? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>IRP could also covered fundamentally irrational decisions as per one commenter - this is a substantive comment which should be considered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Other comments included IRP being applicable to the SMM for community accountability.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Some suggesting an abuse of discretions standard vs de novo which was supported by the ICANN Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>A number of comments on Standing including a number of govts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>A few comments from IPC were interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Also permissive filing vs abuse of the process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Issues around preventing abuse.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Board suggesting rolling back to 2013 needs to be properly understood in our context.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>This completes the overview of the big issues unless there are other issues?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>SDB - RE C. Disspain requirement of restricting IRP - our text does not seem to address this? BB - was this about the global public interest? SDB CD believes it should only apply to the 5 powers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Global public interest as defined for ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - para 268.7 re community IRP has no limitations. CD may of been thinking of MEM which is limited to fundamental Bylaws <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - SDB did CD think it was restricted? SDB yes <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - there was no intent that the CCWG would have such limitations. We should ask Chris to detail his concern so WP2 can consider it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>KA - ICANN refers to MEM panel to review issues brought up by MEM group - this does not seem to be the same as IRP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - correct - if we assume the MEM panel used the bylaws as a standard for review what would be the need for the IRP panel using the same standard? The response was that it may not be necessary. The group should discuss and make a decision. There seemed to be flexibility in the Board position on this point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - Reconciliation issue was made by ALAC - if we leave this in we need to have appropriate output for doing this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - ALAC points out a gap in IRP. Do we think there is a purpose to be served by having a court of last resort if the policy is deficient. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - re divergent policy decisions should be handled in in the new gTLD policy directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - support DM but this time the Board said there was no provision for comparing decisions - in a future round it may be useful to have sanity checks but this is problematic vs TLDs already being delegated. Ultimately for panels - what is the resort for someone identifying an issue - this would mean it would be good to have a last resort.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Chris D has joined us. SDB explains the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>CD - Had understood that the community IRP was limited to a finding that the bylaws had not been followed - no finding of fact but rather be about process. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Was more about the Board respecting the use of the community's powers vs ICANN not having respected its bylaws. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>CD - understand - imagine there are 2 processes IRP and MEM. MEM was for the community IRP and therefore no need for a community IRP and the associated threshold - would the results be different in the areas of dispute discussed <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Yes there would be a difference in that ICANN would pay for it. Some in the community thought that the Trademark +50 violated the Bylaws but that IRP was too expensive to undertake. However there are strongly held feelings in the community that they could gather support for a community based IRP without having to find funding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>CD - talking about 3 different things which is ok in principle - but the question is what is the practical threshold and across SOACs may be overly hard to achieve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - Other example - go back to ICANN CERT, first big CCWG and supported by many members - could be against ICANN Bylaws but there can be no aggrieved parties therefore only the community could bring such and IRP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>KA - this is overly specific.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - we have reached the end of this subject having reached understanding. But appreciate it is difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB- Funding, costs, accessibility and independence issue re: comments. Some commercial interests thought it was important to give the panel the right to shift costs depending on the merits of the case. ICANN felt that its obligation to fund should be limited to community IRPs or MEMS. dOES ANYONE HAVE A VIEW ON THIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - Our proposal was reasonable where ICANN pays for the panel with some cost shifting. Re independence agree with BB's earlier comment that govts pay for courts. Accessibility - do not know what the solution would be.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - We seem to be converging and this should be included in the analysis,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - other topic = Participation in a PDP required before bringing and IRP? These were heard in the first round of comments and the group felt that this standard would be difficult to apply - people affected by ICANN policies may not know they will be affected - and settled on the current text in the second proposal. There were several comments that were concerned about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - Good summary. Make this an equitable defense? A subgroup could help create a valid solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - echoes a way forward for BB - May be useful to think of this in the context of abuse which could cover WAITING IN THE WEEDS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - re the 2013 standard - the group really needs to explore what this implies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG- is it simply undoing the Bylaws that caused the change in 2013?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - There was a gap in understanding at the time....many detailed issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - re what is being proposed is simply to undo the Bylaw change regardless of anything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - possibly but there may be a possibility to close some gaps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>GS - On roll back to 2013 - we need to explain it to participants so everyone understands the details to establish a common baseline.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Prompt action to establish WS2 group for details. We will need an assignment on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - will send out a call for volunteers to address issues on the Major issues list. There is one additional issue which is a holdover from the discussion on AOC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - can we get this done in time <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - doubtful<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - (Page 80 of proposal re AOC) concerning malicious issues etc. As part of the work in preparing the second report decided this was better suited to the reviews section. An issue that has surfaced with strong feelings is the no new gTLDs until....this is a new provision which is not in the AOC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>SDB - WP! while working on AOC as per comments on the first proposal. Only the Board disagreed stating it could be a barrier to entry. WP1 is considering keeping this. But this makes this cross over into this group <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Other comments on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - What if ICANN goes ahead with a new round of gTLDs knowing there are recommendations that have been made without including them?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB- current status on new gTLD review - SDB just beginning,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - Would a new PDP on this be held until the review is completed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>SDB - there are possibilities of a conflict. But we would expect that ICANN would wait for recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - remedial actions may take a long time - and we should not be bound on waiting for this. the last clause is too wide, recommendations for new rounds should only be applicable to new rounds.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - propose to expand the major issues list and make a call for volunteers to address these. On our next call we should discuss RFR and discuss the results of the last Friday meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>AG - can we get it done? The Board proposal may be reasonable <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - good observation. Board and community are fairly close - as such it is important to the process for us to complete this to document the points of agreement of which there are many.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>DM - Similar to AG comments - request we consider creating design teams a la CWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Alan Greenberg: So a commitment from the Board on what we agree on may be optimal. But that is a decision that perhaps we need to defer at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>BB - take the point on. Other comments etc. There are hard issues from mission and core values. and will use the list to move this forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: 1;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>GS - some of the discussion on the list re Fiduciary Duties - which includes the Duty of Obedience. 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