<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I request certification of these issues as well.<div><br></div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 5, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">So do I.<div><br></div><div>Best&nbsp;</div><div>Jordan&nbsp;<span></span><br><br>On Tuesday, 6 October 2015, Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I support certifying these matters to our counsel for advice.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Gregory, Holly <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holly.gregory@sidley.com');" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<b>Cc:</b> Rosemary E. Fei (<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rfei@adlercolvin.com');" target="_blank">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a>); Sidley ICANN CCWG; <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ICANN@adlercolvin.com');" target="_blank">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a><br>
</span><b>Subject:</b> RE: certification of legal issues requested<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Dear Co-Chairs, &nbsp;<br>
Consider whether to certify to us the question of whether under ICANN's current structure
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SOs and ACs have legal rights to select directors in line with designator rights under the California statute. Holly and Rosemary.
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</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Gregory, Holly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2015 09:38:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill@afnic.fr');" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>; <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomas@rickert.net');" target="_blank">
thomas@rickert.net</a>; <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','leonfelipe@sanchez.mx');" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>;
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<b>Cc:</b> Rosemary E. Fei (<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rfei@adlercolvin.com');" target="_blank">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a>); Sidley ICANN CCWG;
<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ICANN@adlercolvin.com');" target="_blank">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> certification of legal issues requested</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dear Co-Chairs
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Based on much discussion and a fair degree of confusion evident in the email exchange, we request that you consider certifying the following question
 to us</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:1.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">What <span style="color:black">
are</span> a director’s fiduciary duties<span style="color:black"> to a </span>California nonprofit
<span style="color:black">public benefit </span>corporat<span style="color:black">ion</span>?&nbsp; What is the relationship between these duties and the mission of the corporation?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In addition,&nbsp; we note that Sam Eisner recently provided a note on the email regarding the availability of default judgments should the Board refuse
 to participate in an IRP.&nbsp; We have a different view and would like you to certify that question to us.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We note as a general matter that we are not able to provide answers to legal questions unless certified but ICANN Legal of course has no such limits.
 It does put us in a difficult position when we don’t agree, since some may take our silence as an indication of agreement.
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Kind regards,
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;Holly and Rosemary &nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">HOLLY</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<b>J. GREGORY</b></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br>
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Corporate Governance &amp; Executive Compensation Practice Group</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sidley Austin LLP</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
787 Seventh Avenue<br>
New York,&nbsp;NY 10019<br>
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