<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>You seem to have described the internal ICANN whistleblower process, the external process i described can operate as a counter-weight to what you stated was a failed process, and it might even have the effect of causing the internal process to be restructured to compete with the probable effectiveness of the external process I described.  <br /><br />If the monthly privacy/human rights advocate organizations wanted to go directly to the public with the claim rather than to law enforcement, after substantiating any claims of government pressure, it therfore could do so, and at least the public would see that the new whistleblower process worked rather than learning about some claim of government pressure of ICANN via independent media and concluding the entire post-transition process is broken.<br /><br />Ron</div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                            Kieren McCarthy &lt;kieren@kierenmccarthy.com&gt;;                            <br>
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                            Nigel Roberts &lt;nigel@channelisles.net&gt;;  &lt;accountability-cross-community@icann.org&gt;;                                                                             <br>
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                            Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Special Community Leaders CAll - 6 October - Shared        Materials                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap;">The current whistleblower process is far worse than that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">For one, the entire process is a hotline to a company that reports directly back to ICANN.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That company receives a complaint and then takes it straight to ICANN and asks ICANN for what to do next. This is not hearsay, it is what happened to one person that actually used the process (and it wasn&#39;t me).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The company&#39;s first question was to ask what their name was. They asked that I&#39;d they gave it, would it be given to ICANN. The answer was yes.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The individual heard nothing about their complaint for a while. Then the company got back: ICANN had decided not to progress with it, so it was considered closed.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">In other words, the
 whistleblower program is a complete fraud completely determined and run by ICANN&#39;s legal team.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">ICANN refuses to provides any details of this program (and no wonder) and that even extends to basic stats.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The only other person that I know used the program was fired shortly afterwards. I understand they gave their name to the company believing it would be confidential.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">When ICANN was quizzed on the program, it had the audacity to argue that the low level of use of the whistleblower program showed that there weren&#39;t any concerns internally.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It&#39;s doesn&#39;t take a genius to realize that keeping your mouth shut is preferable to being fired and having the issue you were complaining about brushed under the carpet.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Kieren<br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div
 class="yqt6361986087" id="yqt53065"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:21 AM Nigel Roberts &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">nigel@channelisles.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">What&#39;s the point of a whistleblowing process if there&#39;s no one with a<br clear="none">
big stick to listen to the whistle?<br clear="none">
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On 07/10/15 15:01, Ron Baione wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt; An idea I had was to include in the process some sort of mandatory monthly collaboration with a secure external whistleblower process.  It is perceived that ICANN members would be somewhat more suceptible to unlawful pressure by governments or inter-governmental entities post-transition.<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; Having an external process might help gain public and U.S. government trust in the transition and accountability process.  Whistle-blower websites and reporters exist around the globe, and have been the subject of much controversy, but in a multistakeholder controlled external whistleblower process, you could have:<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; 1)  A monthly process where a conjunction of 60 legit and diverse privacy groups are placed in a pool of availability<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; 2) 5 privacy organizations would then be chosen at random each month, by algorithm or out of a hat to act as possible external whistleblowers for the ICANN community<br clear="none">
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&gt; 3) Each of the 60 privacy groups must sign a non-disclosure contract with ICANN regarding the provision of their services at any given time<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; 4) The names of the 60 privacy groups would be publicly known, published on January 1st each year,<br clear="none">
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&gt; 5) It would not be lawful for those groups to reveal if they are that monthly representative, or risk losing their incentive to participate in the process, an jncentive which would be non-monetary.<br clear="none">
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&gt; 6) The incentive would be, i suppose, the credibility gained for their organization by being considered worthy of external whistleblower stewardship<br clear="none">
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&gt; 7) An ICANN led review process of which privacy groups are chosen and retained year over year would be conducted by the CCWG.<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; 8) Since the model is for the creation of a a random selection process, groups could theoretically serve 12 times a year, therefore a limit on number of months a single organization could serve a whistleblower function would be capped at 8 months of service.<br clear="none">
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&gt; 9) There would be a code-of-conduct signed by each organization allowing for automatic vote by CCWG on removal from the pool of organizations of an organization or retinment, for example, if an organization for failed to renew or delayed its renewal of its local registration or enacted or amended their bylaws, failed to submit requested information in a timely fashion, or acted in a way that was contrary to supporting a free and open internet.<br clear="none">
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&gt; Ron<br clear="none">
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