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<div>This would be a serious reframing of the boards composition. I would approach such an idea with extreme caution.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday 9 October 2015 at 3:55 p.m.<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>"<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>", CCWG Accountability<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] Agenda - WP1 mtg - 9 Oct 2015 at 1730-1930 UTC<br>
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<div>Then we can change the Bylaws providing the chance to other community to also participate in election of any member of the Board.</div>
<div>Board is a group of persons and individuals collectively taking actions as they are required to protect the public interest and not the interest if any particular group composing the large / global community</div>
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On 9 Oct 2015, at 02:26, Edward Morris <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm not Robin, and I don't know her position, but mine mirrors the California Corporations Code provision for the removal of Board members selected by specific subgroups, specifically §5222(b) which states:</div>
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<div>(2) If by the provisions of the articles or bylaws the members of<br>
any class, voting as a class, are entitled to elect one or more<br>
directors, any director so elected may be removed only by the<br>
applicable vote of the members of that class.</div>
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(3) If by the provisions of the articles or bylaws the members<br>
within a chapter or other organizational unit, or region or other<br>
geographic grouping, voting as such, are entitled to elect one or<br>
more directors, any director so elected may be removed only by the<br>
applicable vote of the members within the organizational unit or<br>
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<div>There are those on the Board who have argued that the fiduciary duty of directors towards the corporation as a whole augers for removal of individual directors buy the whole rather than by the appointing body. The fiduciary responsibility for ICANN directors
is actually a creature of statute, a creation of the same California Corporations Code that is favourably disposed, as above, towards removal of individual directors by the selecting body.</div>
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<div>I'm a strong believer that the security and stability of the DNS is best assured by tried, true and proven corporate structures. I believe that the uniqueness of ICANN is somewhat overstated. ICANN is a California PBC. PBC's have two basic structures under
California law: one that is board centric (designator) and one that is member centric (membership). Selection of the model determines who is, to paraphrase a former American president, the final decider. Nothing more.</div>
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<div>Regardless of our choice as to model, I see no reason to deviate from the route suggested by California statute for the removal of directors or on any other issue of structural detail. The California PBC statute is tried, true and tested. There is case
law to buttress the statutes. The statute is not risky and untried, as are our other options. It is made as a uniform whole, with deference to potential conflicts. Stability is my principle concern and, as such, I prefer all choices we make to mirror the statute
unless there are strong, special reasons unique to ICANN to deviate from the proven, stable structure of the typical California nonprofit corporation. On this particular issue I see none.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Chris Disspain" <<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au">ceo@auda.org.au</a>><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, October 9, 2015 12:43 AM<br>
<b>To</b>: "Robin Gross" <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc</b>: <a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>, "CCWG Accountability" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [WP1] Agenda - WP1 mtg - 9 Oct 2015 at 1730-1930 UTC</span>
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<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Hi Robin,</span>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">What’s your position on whether it should be the electing SO/AC that can recall or a wider group?</span>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">On 9 Oct 2015, at 10:39 , Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Considering the only public comment calling for limitations on the community's right to recall the individual board members was from the board itself, and the consensus has consistently
been for NOT restricting recall rights, but for providing rationales for recalls, I don't understand why we are forced to continue to beat this dead horse. If two public comment periods have not been enough to create anything close to consensus to restrict
the community's board recall rights, let's put this issue to bed and focus on the issues where the community is far more divided.</span>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Thanks,</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Here is the proposed agenda for our next call: Friday 9 October at 17h30 UTC for up to two hours.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><b>Could all those proposing documents for this meeting please circulate them ASAP, with an email subject line that identifies what your document is?</b></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><b>1. Review of Agenda</b></span>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">a) Budget power</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">b) Affirmation of Commitments</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">c) Community Forum</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">d) Community Mechanism as Sole Member / The Model</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">e) Recall of ICANN Board</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><b>3. Approach to documenting our work for 12-Oct deadline</b></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Please advise any further / other agenda items...</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">thanks,</span></div>
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