<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>Nigel, The question was postualted, I answered it.  Everytime the question is repostulated, I will reanswer it.  <br /><br />We can all see what the strategy is, re-ask the same question until those who aren't "corporate enough" are shouted down.  Declare the results of consensus that were never asked for.  Delay tactics and consensus pushing are amateur hour, not going to work on me.<br /><br />Ron</div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                            Nigel Roberts &lt;nigel@channelisles.net&gt;;                            <br>
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                            Ron Baione &lt;ron.baione@yahoo.com&gt;;  &lt;el@lisse.NA&gt;;  &lt;accountability-cross-community@icann.org&gt;;                                                     <br>
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                            Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand?                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top">Ron<br clear="none"><br clear="none">This is a Workstream 2 issue.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Please give it a rest.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 12/10/15 19:47, Ron Baione wrote:<br clear="none">&gt; &quot;E. What would the community take as evidence in the short term that<br clear="none">&gt; the Board is acting in good faith?  I&#39;m concerned by what appears to be<br clear="none">&gt; Board bashing on the list, wherein many things that any of us say or do<br clear="none">&gt; are interpreted negatively and perhaps conspiratorially.  I realize that<br clear="none">&gt; the great majority of people involved int he CCSG process do not have<br clear="none">&gt; such attitudes, but predictably it only takes a very few individuals to<br clear="none">&gt; sour and confuse a discussion and lessen its utility.&quot;<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; In my opinion, an agreement to
 the development of an external<br clear="none">&gt; whistleblower process to protect the post-tranaition process from bad<br clear="none">&gt; actor government and corporate agents&#39; influence. No reason to waste<br clear="none">&gt; time on anything before knowing the post-transition process won&#39;t be a<br clear="none">&gt; facade of multistakeholder democracy. The moment the public finds out<br clear="none">&gt; from &quot;wikileaks&quot; etc, that nefarious activity occurred the internet will<br clear="none">&gt; become a 100% circus show, and that means conhressional hearings.<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; Ron<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">&gt; *From: * Dr Eberhard W Lisse &lt;<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" href="javascript:return">el@lisse.NA</a>&gt;;<br clear="none">&gt; *To: * &lt;<a
 shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" href="javascript:return">nigel@channelisles.net</a>&gt;;<br clear="none">&gt; &lt;<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" href="javascript:return">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;;<br clear="none">&gt; *Cc: * &lt;<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" href="javascript:return">directors@omadhina.net</a>&gt;;<br clear="none">&gt; *Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand?<br clear="none">&gt; *Sent: * Mon, Oct 12, 2015 12:28:48 PM<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; Nigel,<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; I don&#39;t see it like this.<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; At the moment they want us to blink first.<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; And if we do not, they either are going to pass forward unmodified<br clear="none">&gt; (with whatever comments they like, of course), or, overturn<br
 clear="none">&gt; themselves by resolution (which I would see as the nuclear option at<br clear="none">&gt; the moment).<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; greetings, el<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; On 2015-10-12 14:09, Nigel Roberts wrote:<br clear="none">&gt; [...]<br clear="none">&gt;  &gt; But it&#39;s all academic, since no matter what the consensus outcome, the<br clear="none">&gt;  &gt; Board reserves the right to reject it anyway.<br clear="none">&gt; [...]<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; --<br clear="none">&gt; Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse  \        / Obstetrician &amp; Gynaecologist (Saar)<br clear="none">&gt; <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" href="javascript:return">el@lisse.NA</a> &lt;javascript:return&gt;            / *    |  Telephone: +264 81<br clear="none">&gt; 124 6733 (cell)<br clear="none">&gt; PO Box 8421            \    /<br clear="none">&gt; Bachbrecht, Namibia   
 ;____/<br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none">&gt; _______________________________________________<br clear="none">&gt; Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br clear="none">&gt; <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" href="javascript:return">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a> &lt;javascript:return&gt;<div class="yqt6349932851" id="yqtfd92462"><br clear="none">&gt; <a shape="rect" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br clear="none">&gt;<br clear="none"></div></td>
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