<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>Cool, I am aware you are not the CEO of CCWG-accountability, this is a collaborative process where questions are asked and answered. Please refrain from telling me what to do in the future, thanks.<br /><br />Ron</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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Ron Baione <ron.baione@yahoo.com>; <el@lisse.NA>; <accountability-cross-community@icann.org>; <br>
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Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand? <br>
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<td valign="top">I know who I am. Seriously.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 12/10/15 20:12, Ron Baione wrote:<br clear="none">> I don't think you are anything, in fact my original response didn't<br clear="none">> quote you and I don't understand why you responded in that hostile way.<br clear="none">> If someone asked a question and another person answers it, who are you<br clear="none">> to tell someone to not do so? Seriously, I want to know who you think<br clear="none">> you are.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Ron<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">> *From: * Nigel Roberts <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" href="javascript:return">nigel@channelisles.net</a>>;<br clear="none">> *To: * Ron Baione <<a
shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>>; <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" href="javascript:return">el@lisse.NA</a>>;<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" href="javascript:return">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>;<br clear="none">> *Cc: * <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" href="javascript:return">directors@omadhina.net</a>>;<br clear="none">> *Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand?<br clear="none">> *Sent: * Mon, Oct 12, 2015 7:06:45 PM<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> (If you think I'm from the Corporate Dark Side, you've clearly never<br clear="none">> been to an ICANN meeting -- and the public forum in particular -- at any<br clear="none">> time between 1998 and the present day)<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br
clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 12/10/15 20:01, Ron Baione wrote:<br clear="none">> > Nigel, The question was postualted, I answered it. Everytime the<br clear="none">> > question is repostulated, I will reanswer it.<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > We can all see what the strategy is, re-ask the same question until<br clear="none">> > those who aren't "corporate enough" are shouted down. Declare the<br clear="none">> > results of consensus that were never asked for. Delay tactics and<br clear="none">> > consensus pushing are amateur hour, not going to work on me.<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > Ron<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">> > *From: * Nigel Roberts <<a shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" href="javascript:return">nigel@channelisles.net</a> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > *To: * Ron Baione <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" href="javascript:return">el@lisse.NA</a> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" href="javascript:return">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > *Cc: * <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" href="javascript:return">directors@omadhina.net</a> <javascript:return>>;<div class="yqt0735257855" id="yqtfd72690"><br clear="none">> > *Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand?<br
clear="none">> > *Sent: * Mon, Oct 12, 2015 6:55:01 PM<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > Ron<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > This is a Workstream 2 issue.<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > Please give it a rest.<br clear="none">> ><br clear="none">> > On 12/10/15 19:47, Ron Baione wrote:<br clear="none">> > > "E. What would the community take as evidence in the short term that<br clear="none">> > > the Board is acting in good faith? I'm concerned by what appears<br clear="none">> to be<br clear="none">> > > Board bashing on the list, wherein many things that any of us say<br clear="none">> or do<br clear="none">> > > are interpreted negatively and perhaps conspiratorially. I<br clear="none">> realize that<br clear="none">> > > the great majority of people involved int he CCSG
process do not have<br clear="none">> > > such attitudes, but predictably it only takes a very few<br clear="none">> individuals to<br clear="none">> > > sour and confuse a discussion and lessen its utility."<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > In my opinion, an agreement to the development of an external<br clear="none">> > > whistleblower process to protect the post-tranaition process from bad<br clear="none">> > > actor government and corporate agents' influence. No reason to waste<br clear="none">> > > time on anything before knowing the post-transition process won't be a<br clear="none">> > > facade of multistakeholder democracy. The moment the public finds out<br clear="none">> > > from "wikileaks" etc, that nefarious activity occurred the<br clear="none">> internet will<br clear="none">>
> > become a 100% circus show, and that means conhressional hearings.<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > Ron<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">> > > *From: * Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" href="javascript:return">el@lisse.NA</a> <javascript:return><br clear="none">> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > > *To: * <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" href="javascript:return">nigel@channelisles.net</a> <javascript:return><br clear="none">> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > > <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"
href="javascript:return">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a> <javascript:return><br clear="none">> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > > *Cc: * <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" href="javascript:return">directors@omadhina.net</a> <javascript:return><br clear="none">> <javascript:return>>;<br clear="none">> > > *Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Where do we stand?<br clear="none">> > > *Sent: * Mon, Oct 12, 2015 12:28:48 PM<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > Nigel,<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > I don't see it like this.<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > At the moment they want us to blink first.<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > And if we do not, they either are going to pass forward unmodified<br
clear="none">> > > (with whatever comments they like, of course), or, overturn<br clear="none">> > > themselves by resolution (which I would see as the nuclear option at<br clear="none">> > > the moment).<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > greetings, el<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > On 2015-10-12 14:09, Nigel Roberts wrote:<br clear="none">> > > [...]<br clear="none">> > > > But it's all academic, since no matter what the consensus<br clear="none">> outcome, the<br clear="none">> > > > Board reserves the right to reject it anyway.<br clear="none">> > > [...]<br clear="none">> > ><br clear="none">> > > --<br clear="none">> > > Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)<br clear="none">> > >
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