<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Co-chairs</div><div>I raised several questions to Bruce and to the chairman of the Board concerning the defficiencies of MEM.</div><div>1. Why you have not supported me but supporting others who raised questions</div><div>2. Please send an immediate request to Bruce and to Steve Crocker that they must reply .</div><div>This is not n appropriate working method .</div><div>I will raise this issue at the begining of our todays agenda</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-13 10:12 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Weill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
Below is the response from our Counsel regarding Izumi's questions
certified as #81. <br>
<br>
The questions were : <br>
-Under the MEM proposed by ICANN, who exactly and on which<br>
basis has theright to commence proceedings in order to enforce the<br>
binding arbitration?<br>
-Should SO/ACs be unincorporated associations? Should SO/ACs<br>
give power of attorney to their chairs or one of their member?<br>
<div><br>
Best<br>
Mathieu<br>
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<td>Gregory, Holly <a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank"><holly.gregory@sidley.com></a></td>
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<td><a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a> <a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank"><leonfelipe@sanchez.mx></a>,
<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a> <a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank"><mathieu.weill@afnic.fr></a>,
<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a> <a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank"><thomas@rickert.net></a></td>
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<td><a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a> <a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank"><ICANN@adlercolvin.com></a>,
Sidley ICANN CCWG <a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com" target="_blank"><sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dear
Mathieu, Leon and Thomas,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">With
respect to Izumi’s inquiry, questions about how the MEM is
intended to work are best addressed to the Board, ICANN
Legal and Jones Day.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Below
are the memos (with links) where we attempted to compare the
MEM to other models with respect to the enforcement of
community powers based on our understanding of what has been
proposed. Please let us know if there is anything else we
can provide. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Comparison of CCWG 2nd
Draft Proposal (Community Mechanism as Sole Member) and ICANN
Board Proposal (<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/attachments/20151006/1d560670/ComparisonofCCWG2ndDraftProposalandICANNBoardProposalSeptember222015-0001.pdf" target="_blank"><b>Link</b></a>)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span>o<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Item 15 - “The MEM
model complicates the standing analysis because community
members seeking to arbitrate must join together as a MEM Issue
Group. It will be important for the Board to clarify whether
they intend the MEM Issue Group to be considered an
unincorporated association, which would be required to
establish associational standing. If the MEM Issues Group
does not come into existence until it is formed to file a
complaint with the MEM, a question arises regarding how it can
claim that it existed at the time of (and was materially
affected by) the Board’s alleged violation. To file a MEM
complaint, must all members of the Issues Group be materially
affected or can the Group file a MEM complaint in collective
support of a single SO or AC that is materially affected? The
CMSM avoids the difficulty of a temporary “coalition of the
willing” by existing as an unincorporated Sole Member entity
prior to the filing of any claim with the IRP (or MEM).”
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>KEY CHARACTERISTICS
COMPARISON: Community Mechanism As Sole Member Model &
ICANN Board Proposal (<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/attachments/20151006/1d560670/KeyCharacteristicsComparison-CMSMandBoardProposal-0001.pdf" target="_blank"><b>Link</b></a>)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span>o<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Slide 5 - “SO/AC can
petition to invoke MEM Arbitration; upon reaching a certain
threshold of SO/AC support a MEM Issue Group would be formed
which (depending upon implementation) could have standing
under Bylaws and legal capacity to initiate and enforce
arbitration. Scope of permissible MEM arbitration (Fundamental
Bylaw violation v. “new community power violation”) unclear.
SO/ACs may bring actions in CA courts seeking enforcement of
MEM award, although this may require legal personhood. No
single SO/AC has standing to bring derivative suits against
fiduciaries. The MEM Issue Group, as a separate unincorporated
association, would be part of each MEM.”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Comparison of Current
Independent Review Process (IRP), IRP in CCWG 2<sup>nd</sup>
Draft Proposal under the Community Mechanism as Sole Member
(CMSM) Model and ICANN Board Proposal re IRP and
Multistakeholder Enforcement Mechanism (MEM) (<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52896826/Sidley%20Adler%20Memo%20-%20Comparison%20of%20Review%20Processes%20%28October%207%2C%202015%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1444394338000&api=v2" target="_blank"><b>Link</b></a>)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span>o<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Item 3 Who May
Initiate; Harm Threshold - “MEM limited to Board action in
violation of Fundamental Bylaws, and MEM petition must be
initiated by an SO or AC . . .”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:1in">
<span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span>o<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>Item 7 – Capacity to
Sue for Judicial Enforcement - “Three avenues are suggested:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.5in">
<span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span>§<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>an individual SO/AC or
some collection of SOs/ACs could form an unincorporated
association (UA);<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span>§<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>the members of multiple
SO/ACs could form one UA; or<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span>§<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span>the chairs of multiple
SO/ACs could form a UA.”<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">HOLLY</span></b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9pt"> </span><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">J.
GREGORY</span></b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9pt"><br>
Partner and Co-Chair<br>
Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation
Practice<br>
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</span><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Sidley
Austin LLP</span></b><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9pt"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">
Mathieu Weill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 10, 2015 03:57:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gregory, Holly<br>
<b>Cc:</b> León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Izumi Okutani;
Samantha Eisner; ICANN-Adler; Thomas Rickert;
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>;
ACCT-Staff; Sidley ICANN CCWG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Comparison of independent
review processes</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">Hi Holly,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">I believe this
is just a follow up isn't it ? My understanding was that
Izumi's question was already addressed in the various
memos ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">Mathieu
Weill<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">Depuis mon
mobile, désolé pour le style<u></u><u></u></p>
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Le 10 oct. 2015 à 01:19, Gregory, Holly <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>
a écrit :<u></u><u></u></a></p>
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add it to the certified list of questions. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">
León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2015 05:53:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Izumi Okutani<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Samantha Eisner; ICANN-Adler; Thomas
Rickert; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>;
ACCT-Staff; Sidley ICANN CCWG; Mathieu Weill<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Comparison of
independent review processes</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:10pt">Dear Holly, dear Rosemary,<br>
<br>
I think this is a key question. Could you kindly
provide an answer?<br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
<br>
<br>
León<br>
<br>
> El 09/10/2015, a las 5:02 p.m., Izumi Okutani
<<a href="mailto:izumi@nic.ad.jp" target="_blank">izumi@nic.ad.jp</a>>
escribió:<br>
> <br>
> Thanks Sam for this information.<br>
> <br>
> I also have a follow up question and would be
interested to hear the CCWG lawyers' (Sidley Austin
and Adler Colvin) view on this.<br>
> <br>
> Under the MEM proposed by ICANN, who exactly
and on which basis has the<br>
> right to commence proceedings in order to
enforce the binding arbitration?<br>
> <br>
> Should SO/ACs be unincorporated associations?
Should SO/ACs give power<br>
> of attorney to their chairs or one of their
member?<br>
> <br>
> I would appreciate some clarification on this
matter.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thank you,<br>
> Izumi<br>
> <br>
>> On 2015/10/09 4:28, León Felipe Sánchez
Ambía wrote:<br>
>> Thanks Sam. This is very useful
information.<br>
>> <br>
>> It would be useful to know how this avoids
going into the concerns raised by the Board on
capture, complexity and uncertainty:<br>
>> <br>
>> Quote from Jones Day Memo<br>
>> <br>
>> "Specifically, under the Board’s Proposal,
the decision could be enforced by an unincorporated
association comprised of: (i) an individual
participating SO/AC or some grouping of
participating SOs/ACs; (ii) the members of multiple
participating SOs/ACs; or (iii) chairs of multiple
participating SOs/ACs. In the alternative, the
individual (natural) people serving as chairs of the
participating SOs/ACs could enforce the award in an
individual capacity."<br>
>> <br>
>> It would be great if we could have more
clarity on this I think.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> León<br>
>> <br>
>>> El 08/10/2015, a las 1:47 p.m.,
Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" target="_blank">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>>
escribió:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I am forwarding this on behalf of Jones
Day, as they do not have sending rights to this
list.
<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Note from Jones Day:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Dear CCWG, <br>
>>> <br>
>>> As Holly noted in her cover email, CCWG
Counsel's "Comparison of Independent Review
Processes" was provided to Jones Day in advance of
it being circulated to the CCWG. In the interests
of transparency, please note that Jones Day did not
provide line edits identifying the areas of
disagreement with CCWG Counsel, but instead provided
the attached memorandum for CCWG Counsel's
consideration. CCWG Counsel did not revise its
Comparison document to reflect the thoughts set
forth in the attached Jones Day memo. Sidley/Adler
understood that this memo would be shared with the
CCWG after their Comparison document was circulated.
<br>
>>> <br>
>>> From: <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>>>
on behalf of "Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>
<<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>><br>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at
10:24 PM<br>
>>> To: Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>
<<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">mailto:thomas@rickert.net</a>>>,
Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>
<<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>>,
León Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>
<<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>><br>
>>> Cc: Sidley ICANN CCWG <<a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com" target="_blank">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>
<<a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com" target="_blank">mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>>>,
ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:acct-staff@icann.org</a>>>,
ICANN-Adler <<a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>
<<a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank">mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>>>,
"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>"
<<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>><br>
>>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Comparison of
independent review processes<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Dear CCWG Co-chairs, Members and
Participants, Attached please find a comparison of
key characteristics of (1) ICANN's current IRP, (2)
the IRP under the CCWG 2nd Draft Proposal (in the
context of the Community Mechanism as Sole Member
Model), and (3) the IRP and MEM set forth in the
Board Proposal as requested in L.A. <br>
>>> We shared this with Jones Day and ICANN
Legal in advance so that they could provide any
corrections regarding our understanding of the IRP
and MEM as set forth in the Board Proposal.
<br>
>>> Kind regards, Holly and Rosemary<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
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>>> From: Grapsas, Rebecca<br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015
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>>> To: Gregory, Holly<br>
>>> Subject: <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
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