<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>Once again, I would ask the community to take note of that email of direct insults directed at me.<br /><br />I ask that you please refrain from further unsubstantiated, unnecessary insults, which are today and were previously directed towards me, especially without any discernable context to explain why. Maybe it is because I am trying to participate in ccwg-accountability, one can only speculate. I honestly do not understand why from day one you have been insulting me, and I ask again that the Ombudsman take a look at the cacophony of insults to determine if there has long been an atmosphere of disrespect on this mailing list, as noted in the email which stated that in June the Ombudsman sent a letter to this email list requesting the group to act in a civil manner. <br /><br />Ron</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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[CCWG-ACCT] Alleged racism against silicon based life forms <br>
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<td valign="top">Dear Co-Chairs,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">In terms of Roelof Meijer's request for meaningful subject lines:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It appears from the below post of the troll posting from the<br clear="none">email account <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a> that we we must stop all CCWG<br clear="none">related work, IMMEDIATELY, to allow the Ombudsman to determine<br clear="none">whether the troll is indeed a silicon based life form.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Even though he alleges to have been labelled a "silicone based life<br clear="none">form", which he was not.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">If the troll were to be found a silicon based life form he would<br clear="none">have a point as the ICANN rules of behavior state<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Those who
take part in ICANN multi-stakeholder process,<br clear="none"> including Board, staff and all those involved in Supporting<br clear="none"> Organization and Advisory Committee councils, undertake to:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> [...]<br clear="none"> Treat all members of the ICANN community EQUALLY,<br clear="none"> irrespective of nationality, gender, racial or ethnic<br clear="none"> origin, religion or beliefs, disability, age, or sexual<br clear="none"> orientation;<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> members of the ICANN community SHOULD treat each other with<br clear="none"> civility both face to face and online.<br clear="none"> [...]<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If the investigation turned out that the below troll indeed is a<br clear="none">silicon based life form I am sure Mr Roberts will be most willing to<br clear="none">be called to the Ombudsman's Office for a
spanking. As will I, even<br clear="none">though anyone familiar with my background knows I am not the Captain<br clear="none">of Team Caucasian.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The Ombudsman is around, he has a Commonwealth education, so I am<br clear="none">sure he is familiar with the paddle.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">As for the second part of the rule, and even though civility is<br clear="none">defined as<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> formal politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech<br clear="none"><br clear="none">with emphasis of FORMAL, hence, just directing any remarks through<br clear="none">the (Co-)Chair(s) complies with that already, referring to a troll<br clear="none">as a troll most definitively is not impolite:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <a shape="rect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll</a><br
clear="none"><br clear="none">In particular if the troll referred to as a troll is a troll,<br clear="none">whether carbon or silicon based.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">greetings, el<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yqt0853097178" id="yqtfd10677"><br clear="none">On 2015-10-16 09:46 , Roelof Meijer wrote:<br clear="none">> Dear mr. Baloney,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I, probably like quite a few others on this list, fail to see the<br clear="none">> link between your message below and the subject of this thread<br clear="none">> (“Meeting location”).<br clear="none">> During our last CCWG call, I commented on the number of emails we<br clear="none">> all have to deal with and the fact that practically in every mail<br clear="none">> thread of this group, there’s growing divergence between the<br clear="none">> title of the thread and the content of submissions of some as the<br
clear="none">> discussion proceeds. A factor that makes it very difficult for<br clear="none">> the reader to just read those emails that are worth the time.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I would greatly appreciate it if you would stick to the good<br clear="none">> practice of ensuring that the content of your message is aligned<br clear="none">> with subject specified in the header.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Best,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Roelof Meijer<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> From: <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" href="javascript:return">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of<br clear="none">> Ron Baione <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none">> Date: vrijdag 16 oktober 2015 01:45<br
clear="none">[...]<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> It's not a policy on polite discourse if it is not enforced,<br clear="none">> especially when someone can be directly, publicly insulted without<br clear="none">> any fear of the Ombusdmans ability to enforce that policy. It is<br clear="none">> clear that after being publicly referred to impolitely and<br clear="none">> unfairly objectified as a "troll", an "it", "a silicone based<br clear="none">> lifeform", labeled as "hostile", and told to "give it a rest"<br clear="none">> simply for trying to participate and share new ideas, there is no<br clear="none">> actual ability for the Ombudsman to enforce the policy being<br clear="none">> referred to.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> The very fact that the Ombusdman already sent a note previously<br clear="none">> asking members of this list to follow
the policy on polite<br clear="none">> discourse, prior to my being assigned as a participant to<br clear="none">> CCWG-Accountability, shows me that there has long needed to be<br clear="none">> some sort of special review of the comments made by members of<br clear="none">> this mailing list to see if there is a atmosphere of disrespect<br clear="none">> that for some reason has evolved over a lengthy period of time.<br clear="none">> After such a review of the distractions, the real work of<br clear="none">> completing the ICANN transition process will be more successful in<br clear="none">> my opinion. Can the Ombudsman comment on this proposal and/or<br clear="none">> perform such a review?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Ron<br clear="none">[...]<br clear="none"></div></td>
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