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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 18 October 2015 09:23 PM,
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Guru
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<div> In the CWG-Stewardship, he similarly fear mongered
that the transition will fail because NTIA would
reject the Contract Co model. That time too everybody
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<div>Interesting you think the proposal that came out of
CWG-Stewardship was as a result of formal intervention
from Alan (ALAC), well if thats is at all valid, I guess
maybe ALAC deserves accolades then. ;-). We may want to
face reality or just continue in fantasy</div>
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Yes, efforts at disruption of power concentrations are best derided
as 'fantasies' by those who want to hold on to power. But then
people have a nasty democratic way of getting what is legitimately
theirs (democracy was long just a popular fantasy for autocrats)...
The problem here is that the group within the ICANN system that is
supposed to represent the 'peripheries' seem even more eager than
many other groups to reinforce the status quo. That alone is the
irony, although only a minor one give the well-known manner in which
the 'fantasy' of representation of ICANN outsiders is structured
within the ICANN system. <br>
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My problem at this stage is no longer much about the substance of
the matter, we know that the status quo of power in the system will
be preserved at any cost, and any democratisation would have to be
got by other means. My problem is entirely about the process: the
torturous manner in which decisions made dictatorially, to cater to
narrow interests, are being sought to be retrofitted with a 'bottom
up participatory process' that then is also sold as the model for
all kinds of governance. ALAC as the supposed rep of the
'peripheries' has a key role in this tragi-comedy, which is being
played out right now... This joke and bluff should be called, if
anyone can. I hope there is someone in Dublin who will do it - bell
the cat, I mean, getting past the enormous gates that ICANN
carefully erects against such intrusions (and still gets away
calling it an open process).<br>
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parminder <br>
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<div> as we all got to that stage within the CWG where it
was realistically agreed upon that Contract-Co was at best
close to fantasy and then we worked to develop a
compromise solution which by the way was not entirely the
preferred solution of ALAC. <br>
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<div>I really hope the community doesn't blink this
time.</div>
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<div>Hopefully we will learn from CWG and maximize the CCWG
time as much as possible going forward.<br>
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<div>Regards <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at
8:11 PM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Correct, the CCWG
proposal is not dependant on a supermajorty of
the Board supporting it, or in fact any Board
support, since it is not one of the CCWG's
chartering organizations.<br>
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But that is not what I said. At the point when
our recommended changes are to be implemented,
the current Bylaws must be amended. Under the
current Bylaws, the "Bylaws of ICANN may be
altered, amended, or repealed and new Articles
of Incorporation or Bylaws adopted only upon
action by a two-thirds (2/3) vote of all
members of the Board".<br>
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Under their fiduciary duty, each Board member
may only vote to adopt new Bylaws if he/she
believes it is in the interest of ICANN and
its mission and core values to do so. It was
THAT action that I was referring to.<span><font
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At 18/10/2015 09:53 AM, Chartier, Mike S
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The CCWG proposal is not dependent on
support "by a supermajority of Board
directors".<br>
The requirement is that there is not a
determination that it is not in the
global public interest by a 2/3 majority
of the Board.<br>
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On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg<br>
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:42 AM<br>
To: CCWG Accountability<br>
Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] ALAC Statement on
proposed accountability models<br>
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In its formal response to the
CCWG-Accountability proposal issued in
August 2015, the ALAC said that it could
support the model being proposed, but
preferred something far less complex and
lighter-weight, and that we saw no need
for the level of enforceability that the
proposal provided. Moreover, the ALAC
had specific concerns with the budget
veto and the apparent lack of
participation of perhaps a majority of
AC/SOs.<br>
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In light of the reconsideration of a
designator model by the CCWG, along with
the recommendations of the Saturday
morning break-out sessions, the ALAC
felt that a revised statement was in
order.<br>
Accordingly we decided, by a unanimous
vote of the 14 ALAC members present
(with 1 not present), to withdraw
support for the Membership model.<br>
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I want to make it clear that this is not
a "red line" decision.<br>
Should a Membership model become one
that is generally advocated by the CCWG,
and supported by a supermajority of
Board directors (who ultimately MUST
support any changes that they will be
called upon to approve, else they would
be in violation of their fiduciary
duty), then the ALAC reserves its right
to support such a model.<br>
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Alan Greenberg<br>
Chair, At-Large Advisory Committee<br>
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