<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This is not a "new diverting point". Our very own public comment analysis document says there is no consensus on this issue and it needs to be explored. See below from our analysis.<div><br></div><div>When will that discussion happen?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><div><u>
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<h1><a name="_Toc306234319">CMSM</a> </h1><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<h2><a name="_Toc306234322">Areas of Concern/Divergence</a><o:p></o:p></h2><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Lack of consensus on whether the community
should take decisions through formal voting or through establishing
consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Lack of consensus on the voting allocations
between SOs and ACs. Comments expressed concern for “dilution and
authority and influence of SO community”. Most commenters on this
issue expressed support for voting allocations along the lines of ICANN’s
existing board structure.<o:p></o:p></b></span></li>
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tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Lack of consensus on the composition of the
community within the Model (e.g. role of Advisory Committees). Comments
indicated concern over the possible “duality” of the governmental role in
the Model. Several comments expressed concern that providing votes to GAC
will fail to meet NTIA requirements.</b><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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changes required in ICANN’s structure with the model.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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community powers could be provided for by binding arbitration to enforce
fundamental bylaws, instead of the CMSM Model.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<h2><a name="_Toc306234323">Options for CCWG Consideration</a><o:p></o:p></h2><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
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concern raised in public comment, while maintaining “membership” model.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
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for desired community powers under an empowered designator model for
comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l16 level1 lfo16;
tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Single Member and Single Designator Models<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto;
text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Voting or consensus basis; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l4 level2 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Move away from
“voting” and towards “consensus” for decision-making purposes within the
community mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
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Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider
community powers only may be exercised by the community as a whole, based on
consensus or near consensus of the whole of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
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Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>iii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider option
of consensus definition depending on absence of recommendations or advice
against when using community powers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
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Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>iv.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider option
of consensus definition depending on absence of recommendations or advice
against.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--></b><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Reconsider role of the ACs in the Model’s community
forum. Should some ACs be non-voting / decisional and rather, advisory
only? </b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--></b><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Reconsider voting allocations between SOs-ACs to be
more in-line with balance of appointments to ICANN board.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">d.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consideration of advice from those SOs and ACs opting
out of the decision-making mechanism;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">e.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Maintaining balance of power to prevent capture of/by
those opting-in to the decision-making mechanism;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">f.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Factoring in
conflicts of interest and fiduciary or other responsibilities (such as public
interest) into the decision-making design;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto;
text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">g.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Ensuring accountability of the new structure to the
broader community and the global public interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></p></u></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><div>On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div>There is no intention to provide voting power to ACs .What we discussing is that they continue to provide advice in favour or against a given issue that advice is understood to be given after reaching consensus .</div><div>I do not understand some colleagues attempting to bring new diverting points</div><div>Let us to find out how we could bring ourselves closer to each other.</div><div>This type of comments do not help</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-21 11:14 GMT+02:00 Grace Abuhamad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div>Robin’s email is the same as always. We are looking into the issue. </div><div><br></div><span><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;text-align:left;color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <<a href="mailto:acct-staff-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 9:59 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>>, Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Acct-Staff] [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] There is no consensus on the role of Advisory Committees according to our own public comment paper which analyzed public comment<br></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><div name="messageBodySection">Didn't she weite she used a different email address?<br><br>
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On 21 Oct 2015, 09:57 +0100, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Staff,
<div><br></div><div>Can you please check why some emails are not getting to the list?</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>León</div></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 21/10/2015, a las 9:52 a.m., Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> escribió:</div><br><div><div style="-ms-word-wrap: break-word;"><div>Resending, since my email is NOT posting to the list:</div><div><br></div><div>[...]</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></span></div>
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