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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Co- chairs,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I fully support Roelof ’s request, with the addition that all SOIs should be reviewed and attendance monitored.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can I make a further suggestion, as we move full steam ahead to Marrakesh.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Would it possible to create separate <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a> /// emails to the list based on separate threads/ topics. Would the ICANN Female Quartet ( Alice,Hilary, Grace and Brenda) be able to coordinate. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As Roelof says we all have day jobs ( that pays for ICANN volunteering). I personally simply do not have the time to read emails to which I have no expertise, no professional knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phil Buckingham<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CEO, Dot Advice Limited<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roelof Meijer<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 October 2015 16:51<br><b>To:</b> Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br><b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] FW: Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear co-chairs,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I herewith formally request you to consider revoking mr. Ron Baione's (example email below) access to and entry on the CCWG email list(s).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>As arguments supporting this request I submit that:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The nearly 80 emails mr. Baione sent to this list only this month, lack both subject (as of late) and content in almost all cases. Theypre cost other subscribers to the list precious time and bring us (and the community) nothing;<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mr. Baione’s Statement of Interest states very little in general and and is quite unclear about his interests in particular.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>@ my fellow CCWG members and participants: please feel free to support or object to this request.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Best regards,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Roelof A. Meijer</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL'>CEO</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:NL'>SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | P.O. Box 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM | THE NETHERLANDS<br>T +31 (0)26 352 55 00 | M +31 (0)6 11 395 775 | F +31 (0)26 352 55 05 <br><a href="mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl">roelof.meijer@sidn.nl</a> | <a href="http://www.sidn.nl/"><span style='color:gray'>www.sidn.nl</span></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Ron Baione via Accountability-Cross-Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>zaterdag 24 oktober 2015 17:09<br><b>To: </b>"Salaets, Ken" <<a href="mailto:ksalaets@itic.org">ksalaets@itic.org</a>>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is anyone aware of when the next Winston Churchill trivia session will be? Is that a weekly thing? Monthly? Just trying to blend in to the hard work process that is strictly adhered to, it seems.<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div id="_origMsg_"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Salaets, Ken <<a href="mailto:ksalaets@itic.org">ksalaets@itic.org</a>>; <br><b>To: </b>Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject) <br><b>Sent: </b>Sat, Oct 24, 2015 4:02:11 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>+1. <br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=yqt64070><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Drazek, Keith <<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I suggest we ALL try to limit personal back-and-forth email on this global list. We have enough real work to do without distractions. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Keith<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not quite sure what you are trying to say, but I would be glad to ask the list to comment on the relative value of your contributions to my emails, meeting contributions, Working Party contributions and drafting contributions over the last 10+ months. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As you say, it's all relative. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Saturday, October 24, 2015, Ron Baione <<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>The email sought was not found in the archives. The point I was making is that there was no email alerting the community to a known IT problem, nor will there be. The quality of anyone's contributions is relative to the person reading them, as this is an open and inclusive process, and lastly, the quality of your contributions have helped lead ICANN to the success it is today.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>This is a publicly archived email list. You have the same access to the prior emails as every other participant. I suggest you start reading from the beginning of the list and work your way forward until you have caught up with the group. You should find the email you seek in the process. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This will likely have the effect of improving the quality of your contributions as well.<br><br>On Friday, October 23, 2015, Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>The bounceback/spam IT Issue the email lists have been having was a known issue to the office of the ICANN IT director since Yahoo changed its spam filter to DMARC. The information in this email chain (below) was not provided to me when I signed up as a participant to ccwg-accountability. The patch to fix the issue was available in August (read conversation below). If anyone can provide me an email from August 2015 or before, from the IT director or IT Staff, which instructs the members, participants and observers of this or any mailing list that a patch or fix to the mailing list bounceback/spam issue would be tested and implemented, kindly forward that email to me.<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>David Closson <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>To: </b>Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b>Dev Anand Teelucksingh <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com">devtee@gmail.com</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] (no subject) <br><b>Sent: </b>Fri, Oct 23, 2015 7:01:08 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, we first started experiencing the problem back when <a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://yahoo.com</a> changed their DMARC policy to a strict reject.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We didn’t have many <a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://yahoo.com</a> senders on our lists surprisingly so the problem wasn’t a huge deal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We were waiting on a vendor back port patch (CentOS via Redhat) to help with header munging for senders with strict reject DMARC policies.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The back port patch was ready back in August but we didn’t have time to fully test.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have completed testing as of this morning and plan schedule the change for this weekend.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The change will be almost transparent with exception to senders from domains with strict reject DMARC policies.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In this case, the “from:” will be replaced with the list address and we will insert a “reply-to:” header with the senders address.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Our testing indicates this is working flawlessly with the vendor patch.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>David Closson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Director of IT Operations, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Los Angeles, CA 90094<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Office: +1-310-578-8670<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Cell: +1-213-270-3866<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:15 PM<br><b>To: </b>"david.closson" <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] (no subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks David, any way you can provide when the DMARC email issue was initially brought to your attention? For example, has the referenced upgrade been in the works for a few months or is this something that occurred just within the last few weeks/days?<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>David Closson <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>To: </b>Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] (no subject) <br><b>Sent: </b>Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:38:48 AM <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Greetings Ron,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We are testing the version upgrade now in our test environment but need about a week before the actual production upgrade.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>-</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>David Closson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Director of IT Operations, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Los Angeles, CA 90094<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Office: +1-310-578-8670<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Cell: +1-213-270-3866<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron Baione <<a href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">ron.baione@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM<br><b>To: </b>"david.closson" <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] (no subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>David, <br><br>If possible, provide the date or time-frame that the ICANN system upgrade for DMARC related emails was planned for or ordered by your office.<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>David Closson <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>To: </b>John R. Levine <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com">johnl@iecc.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] (no subject) <br><b>Sent: </b>Thu, Oct 22, 2015 6:26:30 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks John.<br><br>We can discuss off-list if you would like.<br><br>Yes, I was attempting to avoid an email discussion regarding DMARC but we already have a upgrade planned to our mailman system since some DMARC support is a necessity moving forward.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br>David Closson<br>Director of IT Operations, ICANN<br>12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300<br>Los Angeles, CA 90094<br>Office: +1-310-578-8670<br>Cell: +1-213-270-3866<br>--<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "John R. Levine" <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com">johnl@iecc.com</a>><br>Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM<br>To: "david.closson" <<a href="mailto:david.closson@icann.org">david.closson@icann.org</a>><br>Cc: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject)<br><br>>> We are working to provide a solution to this problem as quickly as possible.<br>>> We will update Valentina Pavel (ICANN IT support case holder) who can in turn advise the Atlarge stakeholders.<br>><br>>It's actually called DMARC, and I can report there is some work in <br>>progress to fix it at the group that caused the DMARC problems in the <br>>first place.<br>><br>>R's,<br>>John<br>_______________________________________________<br>At-Large mailing list<br><a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</a><br><br>At-Large Official Site: <a href="http://atlarge.icann.org">http://atlarge.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></table></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="javascript:return" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="javascript:return" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>