Trying to come up with a definition of "global public interest", whether by the Board, the Community or the Sole Designator (?) seems like a an effort that will either be endless or perilous. Baking it into the Bylaws seems like an awful idea.<span></span><br><br>On Monday, November 2, 2015, Schaefer, Brett <<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">On the first point, is there a way to put in a time limit for Board consideration after the community settles on its recommendations?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Also, what is the threshold for the Board to reject the WS2 recommendations? Are the recommendations piecemeal or tied together?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">On the second point, I’d prefer the reverse. In other words, the Sole Designator should have to affirm or express support of the Board’s assertion of actions
or policy in support of the global public interest (whatever that is). <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mathieu Weill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 7:31 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">After Dublin we have updated the section of the report related to work stream 2, taking into account the Dublin discussions. It is attached for your information,
although it’s still work in progress. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The group is clearly taking Work Stream 2 seriously, and the transition bylaw article is meant to provide a basis to ensure that consensus recommendations are
effectively implemented. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Recommendation</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">The CCWG-Accountability recommends that the Board adopt a transitional provision in its Bylaws which would commit ICANN to implement the CCWG-Accountability recommendations, and task
the group with creating further enhancements to ICANN's accountability including, but not limited to the following list of issues (see below). This transitional provision must be incorporated in the Bylaws as part of Work Stream 1, prior to the IANA Stewardship
Transition.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I would also remind that we are considering to add to the Articles that Icann’s purpose includes a specific mention that would state :
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">promoting the global public interest<i><u>, as such global public interest may be determined from time to time by the multistakeholder community [as organized
through the Sole Designator] through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process,<u></u><u></u></u></i></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This should also strengthen our WS2 efforts.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mathieu<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Jyoti Panday<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 31 octobre 2015 07:52<br>
<b>À :</b> Kieren McCarthy<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">I echo Kieren's concerns here. In addition I would like to ask if there is scope to include the ICG in the review of WS1 (which I believe they have been following closely due to names proposal) and WS2. I ask because they
have an extended mandate till Sep 2016 and perhaps their involvement would be helpful in continuing the review and progress made by CCWG. It could also mean that the Board cannot unilaterally declare the work completed and sit on the recommendations as it
has in the past. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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On 30 Oct 2015, at 21:23, Kieren McCarthy <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kieren@kierenmccarthy.com');" target="_blank">kieren@kierenmccarthy.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Because one of the big problems identified in the past over ICANN accountability and transparency has been the fact that when a report is handed in, ICANN has decided that that group no longer exists.
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And that has meant the ability to review or continue progress has been lost until years later when another group is formed.<br>
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I have no doubt whatsoever that ICANN will push to have work stream 1 limited and to kill off work stream 2. The most effective way to do that would be for the Board to simply declare this working group's work completed.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:49 AM Greg Shatan <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Stream 1 depends on Work Stream 2 happening as we envision it. This in turn depends on how well we defend, protect and ensure the existence of WS2 in the work we're doing now.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The Board's comments essentially suggested disbanding Work Stream 2 and re-assigning it to ICANN's efforts at "continuous improvement," which I take to mean the usual processes
already in place for ICANN to engage in self-examination and improvement (reviews (e.g., ATRT and other AoC reviews), PDP and non-PDP working groups, expert working groups, staff-and-board initiatives, etc.). <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I know what the review and PDP workflow for the GNSO looks like and that would basically be the kiss of death (or at least an extended coma). Work Stream 2 is a work stream of
this CCWG, and it needs to stay that way, so that it stands apart from the usual business of self-improvement. WS2 is basically a series of "IOU's" from WS1.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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This has to be absolutely re-confirmed and guaranteed in our work reflected in our next Report, and there needs to be consensus in the community (which includes the Board) on that point. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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point and under the usual methods -- if WS2 is no more real than the Tooth Fairy or the Great Pumpkin -- if WS2 is just an attempt to mollify people -- let's just stop kidding ourselves, bring all the WS2 initiatives back into WS1, and deal with it as best
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