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<span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; ">Brett</span><span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; "></span>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mathieu Weill; Schaefer, Brett; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We should not be doing this<br>
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Becky Burr <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 2, 2015, at 11:59, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I'm not saying that there's a sentence which defines "global public interest" in the context of ICANN. I am saying that "</span><i><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">as
such global public interest may be determined from time to time by the multistakeholder community [as organized through the Sole Designator] through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process,</span></u></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"
appears to mandate or endorse a future multistakeholder process to define the "global public interest."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Could one say that the sum total of the community's policy decisions tend to contribute to an understanding of the "global public interest"? Maybe, at least most of the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Could one say that the sum total of the Board's decisions tend to contribute to an understanding of the "global public interest"? Maybe, at least most of the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">But it's a far leap from acknowledging that the ICANN ecosystem's actions and decisions are relevant to considering what the "global public interest" might be, to saying that there will be
a multistakeholder determination of what the global public interest is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I look forward with fear and trembling to the "CCWG on Defining the Global Public Interest Within ICANN's Mission."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi all,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t read the sentence as a *<b>definition</b>* of global public interest but rather as providing
indication that, when consensus is reached in the bottom up, multistakeholder model, a sort of presumption would be established.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This does not contradict any effort to clarify what this notion means in the Icann context.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Remember that this sentence was discussed in Dublin as a way to better align community consensus
and Board’s duty to serve the purpose of the organization. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mathieu</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 2 novembre 2015 16:32<br>
<b>À :</b> Greg Shatan; Schaefer, Brett</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 2, 2015 at 10:02 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Schaefer, Brett" <<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Accountability Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Trying to come up with a definition of "global public interest", whether by the Board, the
Community or the Sole Designator (?) seems like a an effort that will either be endless or perilous. Baking it into the Bylaws seems like an awful idea.<br>
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On Monday, November 2, 2015, Schaefer, Brett <<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On the first point, is there a way to put in a time limit for Board consideration after the community
settles on its recommendations? </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Also, what is the threshold for the Board to reject the WS2 recommendations? Are the recommendations
piecemeal or tied together? </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On the second point, I’d prefer the reverse. In other words, the Sole Designator should have to affirm
or express support of the Board’s assertion of actions or policy in support of the global public interest (whatever that is).
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mathieu Weill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 7:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Colleagues,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After Dublin we have updated the section of the report related to work stream 2, taking into account
the Dublin discussions. It is attached for your information, although it’s still work in progress.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The group is clearly taking Work Stream 2 seriously, and the transition bylaw article is meant to
provide a basis to ensure that consensus recommendations are effectively implemented.
</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Recommendation</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">: The CCWG-Accountability recommends that the Board adopt a transitional
provision in its Bylaws which would commit ICANN to implement the CCWG-Accountability recommendations, and task the group with creating further enhancements to ICANN's accountability including, but not limited to the following list of issues (see below). This
transitional provision must be incorporated in the Bylaws as part of Work Stream 1, prior to the IANA Stewardship Transition.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would also remind that we are considering to add to the Articles that Icann’s purpose includes
a specific mention that would state : </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">promoting the global public interest<i><u>, as such global public interest may be determined from
time to time by the multistakeholder community [as organized through the Sole Designator] through an inclusive bottom-up multistakeholder community process,</u></i></span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></i><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This should also strengthen our WS2 efforts.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mathieu</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> Jyoti Panday<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 31 octobre 2015 07:52<br>
<b>À :</b> Kieren McCarthy<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Defending and Protecting Work Stream 2</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Dear All, </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">I echo Kieren's concerns here. In addition I would like to ask if there is scope to include the ICG in the review of WS1 (which I believe they
have been following closely due to names proposal) and WS2. I ask because they have an extended mandate till Sep 2016 and perhaps their involvement would be helpful in continuing the review and progress made by CCWG. It could also mean that the Board cannot
unilaterally declare the work completed and sit on the recommendations as it has in the past. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Jyoti Panday </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 30 Oct 2015, at 21:23, Kieren McCarthy <<a href="mailto:kieren@kierenmccarthy.com">kieren@kierenmccarthy.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">A quick question: who has the authority to form and disband this working group?<br>
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Because one of the big problems identified in the past over ICANN accountability and transparency has been the fact that when a report is handed in, ICANN has decided that that group no longer exists.
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And that has meant the ability to review or continue progress has been lost until years later when another group is formed.<br>
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I have no doubt whatsoever that ICANN will push to have work stream 1 limited and to kill off work stream 2. The most effective way to do that would be for the Board to simply declare this working group's work completed.<br>
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Can it do that? What would this group do in response if it did?<br>
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Kieren</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:49 AM Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">All,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">There are at least two active discussions in the CCWG regarding items that are currently assigned to Work
Stream 2. In both cases, the "scope of work" to be accomplished in Work Stream 1 depends on Work Stream 2 happening as we envision it. This in turn depends on how well we defend, protect and ensure the existence of WS2 in the work we're doing now.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I've been asked if I really believe that WS2 will happen. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The Board's comments essentially suggested disbanding Work Stream 2 and re-assigning it to ICANN's efforts
at "continuous improvement," which I take to mean the usual processes already in place for ICANN to engage in self-examination and improvement (reviews (e.g., ATRT and other AoC reviews), PDP and non-PDP working groups, expert working groups, staff-and-board
initiatives, etc.). </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I know what the review and PDP workflow for the GNSO looks like and that would basically be the kiss of death
(or at least an extended coma). Work Stream 2 is a work stream of this CCWG, and it needs to stay that way, so that it stands apart from the usual business of self-improvement. WS2 is basically a series of "IOU's" from WS1.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Work Stream 2 was only allowed to exist in the first place because we agreed that WS1 would guarantee that
WS2 went forward, even without the "leverage" of the upcoming transition. This has to be absolutely re-confirmed and guaranteed in our work reflected in our next Report, and there needs to be consensus in the community (which includes the Board) on that point.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">If there is any doubt that WS2 is real and will proceed as planned -- if we are kidding ourselves and WS2
is basically nothing but a list of future chores to get around to at some point and under the usual methods -- if WS2 is no more real than the Tooth Fairy or the Great Pumpkin -- if WS2 is just an attempt to mollify people -- let's just stop kidding ourselves,
bring all the WS2 initiatives back into WS1, and deal with it as best we can.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">We have two choices -- a real, robust and guaranteed Work Stream 2 for this group, or no Work Stream 2
at all.</span></b><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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