<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Owning to the fact that whoever is given the role to carry out the SD paper work cannot independently be conferred and exercise the inspection rights without the community's directive then I can agree with Jordan on this, although I sense it might be a fairly longer route but it's still fine.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That said, I am okay either way, inspection is just an act of providing information to inform and also to probably decide if applicable. It may be more straight forward to confer those to the community directly but noting spoils it it's also requested/sent through the SD</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 Nov 2015 06:44, "Jordan Carter" <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The only thing I would like to add at this point is to query the point about granting such rights to individual SOs and ACs.<div><br></div><div>The rights of a member, which we are analogising, would have given the inspection right to the community mechanism as sole member. The right would not have been able to be delegated to SOs and ACs in a legal sense. It was the abstraction of that right *away* from individual SOs and ACs, along with other statutory rights, which was part of the shift from multiple members to single members.</div><div><br></div><div>It is not clear to me why we should, in WS1, do anything other than replicate what the member right would have been - to grant it to the community as a whole, as would have been the case with membership.</div><div><br></div><div>For the rest, it should be WS2....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 November 2015 at 10:24, Schaefer, Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 4:22 PM</span></p><div><div><br>
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<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I am referring to the more recent discussion that arose form the move from membership to designator. Even so, there is no opposition expressed that I have seen
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 3:44 PM<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 2, 2015 at 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Accountability Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
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