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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Oh goody … two more years of CCWG meetings! </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul Rosenzweig<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>O: +1 (202) 547-0660<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>M: +1 (202) 329-9650<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Link to my PGP Key</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 6, 2015 12:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com><br><b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Or alternatively, one last massive push to put all things WS2 into WS1.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Further, any doubts about WS2 destabilize WS1 recommendations that have WS2 dependencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>No matter how you slice it, WS2 is a necessary part of the overall CCWG work plan and removing it has several consequences, and I can't think of any that are good.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Likewise. Without assurance that the CCWG will persist to pursue WS2 accountability matters there is a high likelihood of dissipation of focused effort and mission failure.<br><br>Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal<br>Virtualaw LLC<br>1155 F Street, NW<br>Suite 1050<br>Washington, DC 20004<br><a href="tel:202-559-8597">202-559-8597</a>/Direct<br><a href="tel:202-559-8750">202-559-8750</a>/Fax<br><a href="tel:202-255-6172">202-255-6172</a>/cell<br><br>Twitter: @VlawDC<br> <br>"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Wilson, Christopher<br>Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:05 AM<br>To: Malcolm Hutty; Nigel Roberts; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position<br><br>Agree.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Malcolm Hutty<br>Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 6:32 AM<br>To: Nigel Roberts; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position<br><br><br><br>On 05/11/2015 19:59, Nigel Roberts wrote:<br>> I find this helpful. Well done.<br>><br>> I do have some small reservations about the final para which reads<br>> "May we therefore ask the Board to formally commit to honoring WS2<br>> recommendations?"<br>><br>> They can commit all they like. But what matters is whether there is<br>> any enforceability (to borrow a term from a source I respect) should a<br>> future Board not live up to the committments of the present Board.<br>><br>> So I would hope the Board would answer with HOW they would guarantee<br>> their commitment (which, in good faith, I believe to be indubitable<br><br>Actually, I think the point that has been brought into question is not whether the Board commit nor whether it is enforceable, but whether that line of work would be pursued through the CCWG or whether it will be dispersed.<br><br>Concerns have been expressed that dispersal will result in dissipation, and that closing the CCWG will remove the only or most effective mechanism to pursue WS2. Previously, we believe we had assurance that<br>WS2 would continue; more recently, the Board has introduced a suggestion that that might not be the case.<br><br>So what we should be seeking to have confirmed is the Board's commitment that this CCWG may continue to exist for the purpose of developing plans and overseeing the implementation of WS2, and that the Board will continue to co-operate with the CCWG during that process.<br><br>Malcolm.<br><br>--<br> Malcolm Hutty | tel: <a href="tel:%2B44%2020%207645%203523">+44 20 7645 3523</a><br> Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__publicaffairs.linx.net_&d=CwICAg&c=QCEPhmH9WJ8wFC_LYDIWIQ&r=_yIH0j711TdLk87MBYWQ4A&m=uSd-Wscbrow4bq_dloRttMC92IEpjw-qJOCbz0lDvEc&s=o28bEyuKN1gjXoOnaSM3PxlGv7hp431MDbiV6RYObWA&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__publicaffairs.linx.net_&d=CwICAg&c=QCEPhmH9WJ8wFC_LYDIWIQ&r=_yIH0j711TdLk87MBYWQ4A&m=uSd-Wscbrow4bq_dloRttMC92IEpjw-qJOCbz0lDvEc&s=o28bEyuKN1gjXoOnaSM3PxlGv7hp431MDbiV6RYObWA&e=</a><br><br> London Internet Exchange Ltd<br> Monument Place, 24 Monument Street, London EC3R 8AJ<br><br> Company Registered in England No. 3137929<br> Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_accountability-2Dcross-2Dcommunity&d=CwICAg&c=QCEPhmH9WJ8wFC_LYDIWIQ&r=_yIH0j711TdLk87MBYWQ4A&m=uSd-Wscbrow4bq_dloRttMC92IEpjw-qJOCbz0lDvEc&s=5TzyM6-LGnJWLgRp67V1ybQy2anZvKBH8v3noEa3kE0&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_accountability-2Dcross-2Dcommunity&d=CwICAg&c=QCEPhmH9WJ8wFC_LYDIWIQ&r=_yIH0j711TdLk87MBYWQ4A&m=uSd-Wscbrow4bq_dloRttMC92IEpjw-qJOCbz0lDvEc&s=5TzyM6-LGnJWLgRp67V1ybQy2anZvKBH8v3noEa3kE0&e=</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-----<br>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4450/10889 - Release Date: 10/25/15 Internal Virus Database is out of date.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>