<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br><div>
<p><a name="150f005df110c4de__ftn2" title=""><span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[2]</span></span></span></a>
This is taken from an email from Malcolm Hutty, as a description of what is
meant by “services” in this context. Due
to the variety of meanings that “services” can have, it is necessary to avoid
ambiguity.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div>adding "....and the like" already creates ambiguity. WHOIS(or to be more generic, any content related to a registrant) for instance does not run from Pluto as it can indeed be classified as a service, which IMO should have some form of regulation.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div>
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<p><a name="150f005df110c4de__ftn3" title=""><span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[3]</span></span></span></a>
Once the nature of the “services” is clarified, the nature of their “use” no
longer needs to be clarified. </p>
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<p><a name="150f005df110c4de__ftn4" title=""><span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[4]</span></span></span></a>
This is taken almost verbatim from the Second Draft Report, para. 158. Since it is a direct comment on the contents
of the Bylaw, it should be reflected in the draft Bylaw. Once this is here, Malcolm’s last sentence is
no longer needed.</p>
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<p><a name="150f005df110c4de__ftn5" title=""><span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[5]</span></span></span></a>
This is a recommendation taken from the “Comment Summary PRINCIPLES” analysis
prepared by WP1 after the second Public Comment period.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I don't think mission should be tied to documents that can change at any point in time. Its also good to use few technical/complicated words as much as possible....thats why I find that of Malcom quite on point and understandable. I am though in agreement with removing the word "strictly" as proposed by Greg. In other to ensure that ICANN mission supersedes any possible contract/agreement, I will also suggest the section below be updated as thus:<br><br>"<span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif">ICANN
shall have the ability to negotiate, enter into and enforce agreements with
contracted parties <span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">in service of its Mission.<br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><font color="#000000">TO</font><br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><font color="#000000">"</font></span></span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif">ICANN
shall have the ability to negotiate, enter into and enforce agreements with
contracted parties <span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">in accordance to and in service of its Mission</span>.<br><br></span></span></font></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Book",serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">On a lighter note, i expect that this is only looking at one of the open items of the mission statement.<br><br>Regards</span><br></span></span></font></span></span></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div>
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</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<div>In advance of our call tomorrow I want to flag the open issue in the Mission Statement – language prohibiting ICANN from regulating "services that use the Internet’s unique identifiers or the content that they carry or provide." </div>
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<div>While there is strong consensus that (1) ICANN’s mission is limited and (2) ICANN should act only in furtherance of its mission, strong and divergent perspectives on the proposed language itself remain. The language has been in the proposed Mission Statement
since our Frankfurt meeting last January. Numerous commenters supported the language in both the first and second comment periods on the grounds that ICANN should not attempt to regulate third parties through its agreements with registries and registrars.
On the other hand, many commenters expressed concerns about potential unintended consequences of this language, and the impact that it might have, for example, on ICANN’s ability to enforce commitments contained in registry and/or registrar commitments (e.g.,
Public Interest Commitments, special-interest new gTLD applications, etc.). </div>
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<div>The following chart (also attached as a PDF) compares the language in the 2nd Draft Report with language circulated shortly following the Dublin meeting, and suggested language proposed by Greg Shatan and Malcolm Hutty respectively to resolve this issue.
(Another approach, which I floated, was strongly criticized.) As we review and discuss this language tomorrow, please keep in mind that we have always been clear that the language in the proposed Mission Statement is not final Bylaws language, rather it
intended to guide those crafting final Bylaws. I look forward to a fruitful discussion in 12 hours!</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">2<sup>nd</sup> Draft Report Language<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Post-Dublin Language<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Greg Shatan Proposal 2 Nov 2015<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Malcolm Hutty Proposal 6 Nov 2015<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">ICANN shall have no power to act other than in accordance with, and as reasonably appropriate to achieve its Mission.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Without in any way limiting the foregoing absolute prohibition, ICANN shall not engage in or use its powers to attempt the regulation of services that use the Internet's unique
identifiers, or the content that they carry or provide.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">ICANN shall
<s><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">have no power to</span></s> act <span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">
strictly</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,144)"> </span><s><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">other than</span></s><span style="color:rgb(0,0,144)">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Without in any way limiting the foregoing absolute prohibition, ICANN shall not regulate services that use the Internet's unique identifiers, or the content that such services carry
or provide. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:rgb(51,102,255)">In service of its Mission</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:red">
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:rgb(51,102,255)">ICANN shall have the ability to enforce agreements with contracted parties, subject to established means of community input on those agreements and reasonable checks
and balances on its ability to impose obligations exceeding ICANN’s Mission on registries and registrars.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">Without in any way limiting the foregoing absolute prohibition, ICANN shall not regulate services that use the Internet's unique identifiers, or the content that such services carry
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:rgb(251,0,7)">ICANN and contracted parties entering into, complying with and enforcing agreements does not constitute regulation.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:blue"> In service of its Mission, ICANN shall have the ability to enforce agreements with contracted parties, subject to established means of community input on those agreements
and reasonable checks and balances on its ability to impose obligations exceeding ICANN’s Mission on registries and registrars.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">to enable or facilitate their reachability over the Internet, nor shall it regulate</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"">ICANN shall have the ability to negotiate, enter into and enforce agreements with contracted parties
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ICANN’s Mission on registries and registrars</span></s><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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