<div dir="ltr"><div>+1~<br><br></div>Cheers!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I think one point that is missing in this discussion is that we are<br>
increasing the powers of all segments of the ICANN community, with the<br>
exception of the ICANN Board. In that respect, if we are to point out<br>
that the GAC influence is increasing it must be done in the context of<br>
increasing the powers of all other the SO and the ALAC and with<br>
consideration that in relative terms the GAC is not being increased any<br>
more than any other SOAC. It should be noted that not to give GAC an<br>
equivalent increase in its ability to participate in decisions with<br>
regard to ICANN the organization, not is policies, would be to decrease<br>
the influence of the GAC. If the intention of the proposal is to<br>
decrease the relative influence of the GAC, we should be clear in<br>
stating that fact.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
On 10-Nov-15 14:26, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
><br>
> I agree with all of Robin’s points below.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In particular, the point about the GAC needs clarity and correction.<br>
> Pedro, Steve, Jorge and others were actually discussing significant<br>
> changes to the GAC advisory role yesterday. Even if those changes are<br>
> not included in the proposal and the GAC advisory role remains<br>
> unchanged, we are proposing allowing GAC to exercise significant<br>
> additional powers and influence through participation in the community<br>
> mechanism. This needs to be made clear.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Brett<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> *From:*<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf<br>
> Of *Robin Gross<br>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:06 PM<br>
> *To:* Accountability Cross Community<br>
> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] comments on draft summary<br>
<span class="">><br>
><br>
><br>
> In addition to the comments on the text provided by Brett and Tatiana,<br>
> with which I separately voiced my agreement, I'd offer the following<br>
> comments on the draft summary just released:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *I. p.4-5 "The CCWG-Accountability is not recommending that any<br>
> changes or alterations be made to ... the advisory role of the GAC..." *<br>
<span class="">><br>
> This statement is simply false. We ARE in fact proposing a big change<br>
</span>> - in that we are offering a */decision making /*role to GAC on the<br>
<span class="">> community powers. I understand the desire to make the claim<br>
> otherwise, but we are simply misleading the public to say that at the<br>
> beginning of the report no changes to GAC's advisory role are<br>
> recommended, but in the details to come out later, we learn we are<br>
> providing GAC a decision making role on key issues. We should be<br>
> honest and admit that is what we are doing and provide the rationale<br>
> for it (if we believe it is worth doing). But simply to claim we<br>
> aren't proposing a change in GAC's advisory role, when we are in fact<br>
> proposing a major change of GAC's role to decision making is<br>
> shamefully misleading on our part.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *II. p. 18 and 20 - The process can only be used once for removing an<br>
> individual director. *<br>
<span class="">><br>
> We need to specify at what stage does that "once" count. I think the<br>
> right place for that "once" to count is at the stage of community<br>
> forum deliberations. I don't think we are saying there can only be a<br>
> single petition (stage 1) to remove an individual board member because<br>
> that could be filed with little merit and go no where, and then the<br>
> community would lose its opportunity to use that power when a<br>
> legitimate need to exercise it comes along. It could even be used to<br>
> "game" the process, by intentionally filing bogus petitions to<br>
> eliminate the power in a legitimate case.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *III. p.34 on reconsideration process.*<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Current wording of draft, which is unclear what is meant:<br>
><br>
> * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman performing the initial<br>
</span>> assessments of Reconsideration Requests *_in relation to_* ICANN’s<br>
<span class="">> Legal Department.<br>
><br>
> Proposed change to clarify what is meant (red text):<br>
><br>
> * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman performing the initial<br>
</span>> assessments of Reconsideration Requests *_instead of_*ICANN’s Legal<br>
> Department.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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