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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The bit of Avri's mail I want to draw
      attention to is this:<br>
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      "we are increasing the powers of all segments of the ICANN
      community, with the exception of the ICANN Board."<br>
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      Avri goes on to speak for, or to, the GAC. <br>
      <br>
      She urges an increase in the "powers of <br>
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      On 11/11/15 12:12 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
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        Cheers!<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Avri
          Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
            <br>
            I think one point that is missing in this discussion is that
            we are<br>
            increasing the powers of all segments of the ICANN
            community, with the<br>
            exception of the ICANN Board.  In that respect, if we are to
            point out<br>
            that the GAC influence is increasing it must be done in the
            context of<br>
            increasing the powers of all other the SO and the ALAC and
            with<br>
            consideration that in relative terms the GAC is not being
            increased any<br>
            more than any other SOAC.   It should be noted that not to
            give GAC an<br>
            equivalent increase in its ability to participate in
            decisions with<br>
            regard to ICANN the organization, not is policies, would be
            to decrease<br>
            the influence of the GAC.  If the intention of the proposal
            is to<br>
            decrease the relative influence of the GAC, we should be
            clear in<br>
            stating that fact.<br>
            <br>
            avri<br>
            <span class=""><br>
              <br>
              On 10-Nov-15 14:26, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; I agree with all of Robin’s points below.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; In particular, the point about the GAC needs clarity
              and correction.<br>
              &gt; Pedro, Steve, Jorge and others were actually
              discussing significant<br>
              &gt; changes to the GAC advisory role yesterday. Even if
              those changes are<br>
              &gt; not included in the proposal and the GAC advisory
              role remains<br>
              &gt; unchanged, we are proposing allowing GAC to exercise
              significant<br>
              &gt; additional powers and influence through participation
              in the community<br>
              &gt; mechanism.  This needs to be made clear.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Best,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Brett<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
            </span>&gt;
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            &gt; BrettSchaefer<br>
            <span class="">&gt; Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in
              International Regulatory Affairs<br>
              &gt; Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute
              for National<br>
              &gt; Security and Foreign Policy<br>
              &gt; The Heritage Foundation<br>
              &gt; 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE<br>
              &gt; Washington, DC 20002<br>
              &gt; 202-608-6097<br>
            </span>&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://heritage.org" rel="noreferrer"
              target="_blank">heritage.org</a> &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://heritage.org/"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://heritage.org/">http://heritage.org/</a></a>&gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; *From:*<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
            &gt; [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
            *On Behalf<br>
            &gt; Of *Robin Gross<br>
            &gt; *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:06 PM<br>
            &gt; *To:* Accountability Cross Community<br>
            &gt; *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] comments on draft summary<br>
            <span class="">&gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; In addition to the comments on the text provided by
              Brett and Tatiana,<br>
              &gt; with which I separately voiced my agreement, I'd
              offer the following<br>
              &gt; comments on the draft summary just released:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
            </span>&gt; *I.  p.4-5 "The CCWG-Accountability is not
            recommending that any<br>
            &gt; changes or alterations be made to ... the advisory role
            of the GAC..."  *<br>
            <span class="">&gt;<br>
              &gt; This statement is simply false.  We ARE in fact
              proposing a big change<br>
            </span>&gt; - in that we are offering a */decision making
            /*role to GAC on the<br>
            <span class="">&gt; community powers.  I understand the
              desire to make the claim<br>
              &gt; otherwise, but we are simply misleading the public to
              say that at the<br>
              &gt; beginning of the report no changes to GAC's advisory
              role are<br>
              &gt; recommended, but in the details to come out later, we
              learn we are<br>
              &gt; providing GAC a decision making role on key issues. 
              We should be<br>
              &gt; honest and admit that is what we are doing and
              provide the rationale<br>
              &gt; for it (if we believe it is worth doing).  But simply
              to claim we<br>
              &gt; aren't proposing a change in GAC's advisory role,
              when we are in fact<br>
              &gt; proposing a major change of GAC's role to decision
              making is<br>
              &gt; shamefully misleading on our part.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
            </span>&gt; *II.  p. 18 and 20 - The process can only be
            used once for removing an<br>
            &gt; individual director.  *<br>
            <span class="">&gt;<br>
              &gt; We need to specify at what stage does that "once"
              count.  I think the<br>
              &gt; right place for that "once" to count is at the stage
              of community<br>
              &gt; forum deliberations.  I don't think we are saying
              there can only be a<br>
              &gt; single petition (stage 1) to remove an individual
              board member because<br>
              &gt; that could be filed with little merit and go no
              where, and then the<br>
              &gt; community would lose its opportunity to use that
              power when a<br>
              &gt; legitimate need to exercise it comes along.  It could
              even be used to<br>
              &gt; "game" the process, by intentionally filing bogus
              petitions to<br>
              &gt; eliminate the power in a legitimate case.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
            </span>&gt; *III.  p.34 on reconsideration process.*<br>
            <span class="">&gt;<br>
              &gt; Current wording of draft, which is unclear what is
              meant:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;     * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman
              performing the initial<br>
            </span>&gt; assessments of Reconsideration Requests *_in
            relation to_* ICANN’s<br>
            <span class="">&gt; Legal Department.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Proposed change to clarify what is meant (red text):<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;    * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman
              performing the initial<br>
            </span>&gt; assessments of Reconsideration Requests
            *_instead of_*ICANN’s Legal<br>
            &gt; Department.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Thanks,<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Robin<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
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