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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The bit of Avri's mail I want to draw
attention to is this:<br>
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"we are increasing the powers of all segments of the ICANN
community, with the exception of the ICANN Board."<br>
<br>
Avri goes on to speak for, or to, the GAC. <br>
<br>
She urges an increase in the "powers of <br>
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On 11/11/15 12:12 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Avri
Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<br>
I think one point that is missing in this discussion is that
we are<br>
increasing the powers of all segments of the ICANN
community, with the<br>
exception of the ICANN Board. In that respect, if we are to
point out<br>
that the GAC influence is increasing it must be done in the
context of<br>
increasing the powers of all other the SO and the ALAC and
with<br>
consideration that in relative terms the GAC is not being
increased any<br>
more than any other SOAC. It should be noted that not to
give GAC an<br>
equivalent increase in its ability to participate in
decisions with<br>
regard to ICANN the organization, not is policies, would be
to decrease<br>
the influence of the GAC. If the intention of the proposal
is to<br>
decrease the relative influence of the GAC, we should be
clear in<br>
stating that fact.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<span class=""><br>
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On 10-Nov-15 14:26, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
><br>
> I agree with all of Robin’s points below.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In particular, the point about the GAC needs clarity
and correction.<br>
> Pedro, Steve, Jorge and others were actually
discussing significant<br>
> changes to the GAC advisory role yesterday. Even if
those changes are<br>
> not included in the proposal and the GAC advisory
role remains<br>
> unchanged, we are proposing allowing GAC to exercise
significant<br>
> additional powers and influence through participation
in the community<br>
> mechanism. This needs to be made clear.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Brett<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>>
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> *From:*<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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*On Behalf<br>
> Of *Robin Gross<br>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:06 PM<br>
> *To:* Accountability Cross Community<br>
> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] comments on draft summary<br>
<span class="">><br>
><br>
><br>
> In addition to the comments on the text provided by
Brett and Tatiana,<br>
> with which I separately voiced my agreement, I'd
offer the following<br>
> comments on the draft summary just released:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *I. p.4-5 "The CCWG-Accountability is not
recommending that any<br>
> changes or alterations be made to ... the advisory role
of the GAC..." *<br>
<span class="">><br>
> This statement is simply false. We ARE in fact
proposing a big change<br>
</span>> - in that we are offering a */decision making
/*role to GAC on the<br>
<span class="">> community powers. I understand the
desire to make the claim<br>
> otherwise, but we are simply misleading the public to
say that at the<br>
> beginning of the report no changes to GAC's advisory
role are<br>
> recommended, but in the details to come out later, we
learn we are<br>
> providing GAC a decision making role on key issues.
We should be<br>
> honest and admit that is what we are doing and
provide the rationale<br>
> for it (if we believe it is worth doing). But simply
to claim we<br>
> aren't proposing a change in GAC's advisory role,
when we are in fact<br>
> proposing a major change of GAC's role to decision
making is<br>
> shamefully misleading on our part.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *II. p. 18 and 20 - The process can only be
used once for removing an<br>
> individual director. *<br>
<span class="">><br>
> We need to specify at what stage does that "once"
count. I think the<br>
> right place for that "once" to count is at the stage
of community<br>
> forum deliberations. I don't think we are saying
there can only be a<br>
> single petition (stage 1) to remove an individual
board member because<br>
> that could be filed with little merit and go no
where, and then the<br>
> community would lose its opportunity to use that
power when a<br>
> legitimate need to exercise it comes along. It could
even be used to<br>
> "game" the process, by intentionally filing bogus
petitions to<br>
> eliminate the power in a legitimate case.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</span>> *III. p.34 on reconsideration process.*<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Current wording of draft, which is unclear what is
meant:<br>
><br>
> * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman
performing the initial<br>
</span>> assessments of Reconsideration Requests *_in
relation to_* ICANN’s<br>
<span class="">> Legal Department.<br>
><br>
> Proposed change to clarify what is meant (red text):<br>
><br>
> * Focusing on having the ICANN Ombudsman
performing the initial<br>
</span>> assessments of Reconsideration Requests
*_instead of_*ICANN’s Legal<br>
> Department.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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