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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>donderdag 12 november 2015 17:07<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Roelof Meijer <<a href="mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl">roelof.meijer@sidn.nl</a>>, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Stress Test 18: bylaw amendment suggestion<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I should also add that much as I agree with the amendments that Mark and Finn have proposed which =might= be useful, the GAC has not accepted them.
So a final question for Pedro and Olga rather than Roelof – do you accept the amendmendatory suggestions made by Mark C and Finn?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Roelof Meijer [<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Stress Test 18: bylaw amendment suggestion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">After improving the proposal with the remarks made by some GAC members (especially Mark and Finn), I fail to understand why most commenters on this proposal,
instead of starting from what they do like and what the CCWG could work with, start with what they do not like and cannot live with. I do know that it is a very effective way not to converge and not make any progress. Which seems to be exactly what is happening.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On a much higher level, I find it almost unbelievable that some think that, in an global environment where our economies and societies become rapidly very
dependent on the internet (and with that, on the DNS), we can prevent governments from getting the fair share of influence that has to come with the tasks societies give them. Yes, some governments want more and one has to be alert, but that is also true for
the private sector.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I think Pedro’s proposal, with the amendments suggested, in the basis is a way out of the mess that stress test 18 has become, that will actually work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Quite a few argue that "This would be a significant expansion of the current role and influence of the GAC”. That might be the case, but, with the powers
we foresee, the influence of ALL stakeholders would significantly expand. That’s the whole idea behind enhancing ICANN’s accountability (to the community). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Moreover, as Avri remarked earlier, "<i>what is most important is that the board can reject GAC/AC's advice and that it learns how to do so when that is appropriate</i>".
Through the new powers, the (rest of the) community can make sure it can and does so when appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">So, I have no serious problem with aligning the threshold for rejection of consensus GAC advice with the SO’s and set it at 2/3rds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">And as we know, it is not something new either; as the ATRT’s recognized this (and did so with the present accountability structure and
<i>without</i> narrowing it’s applicability down to consensus advice, as far as I know).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In line with how this is for the other constituencies, I find it no more than logic that the GAC determines what consensus GAC advice is and how it arrives at it.
The phrase "</span><i><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">the advice provided is clear and reflects the consensus view of the committee”
</span></i><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">in the proposal helps there: there’s objectively not a lot of maneuvering space before an advice will evidently NOT be consensus advice and can be rejected on that ground. I would agree that a single
objection in a large group (as e.g. the GAC), falls within that maneuvering space, if the relevant SO or AC would so decide.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Concluding: with the incorporation of the remarks mentioned, and in the absence of public statements of disagreement from GAC members, I urge us to put the
proposed bylaw texts in our proposal and conclude the work on Stress Test 18.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Roelof Meijer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
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<b>Date: </b>maandag 9 november 2015 11:28<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] Stress Test 18: bylaw amendment suggestion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"<i>The discussions on Stress Test 18 have helped the GAC to have a better understanding of the different views on the issue. In assessing the different rationales presented so far related to
Stress Test 18, the GAC considered: </i></span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><i><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">The need that each and every Advisory Committee ensures that the advice provided is clear and reflects the consensus view of the Committee;
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">for the ICANN Board to reject GAC advice to a 2/3 majority voting, consistent with the threshold established for rejection of ccNSO and GNSO PDP recommendations.</span></i><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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into account the timelines of the CCWG. GAC Members will continue to work within the CCWG to finalise the proposal for enhancing ICANN accountability.</span></i><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">" </span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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only, Directors and non-directors, or non-directors only, and may also include non-voting or alternate members. Advisory Committees shall have no legal authority to act for ICANN, but shall report their findings and recommendations to the Board.</span></i><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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agreed solutions for implementation of that advice, the Advisory Committee will make every effort to ensure that the advice provided is clear and reflects the consensus view of the committee. In this context, each Advisory Committee has the right to determine
its particular definition of consensus.</span></u></i></b><i><u><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">” </span></u></i><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">ARTICLE XI: ADVISORY COMMITTEES</span></i><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Section 2. SPECIFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEES</span></i></b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">“The advice of the Governmental Advisory Committee on public policy matters shall be duly taken into account, both in the formulation and adoption of policies.
In the event that the ICANN Board determines to take an action that is not consistent with the Governmental Advisory Committee advice, it shall so inform the Committee and state the reasons why it decided not to follow that advice. <b><u>Any GAC Advice approved
by a GAC consensus may only be rejected by a vote of more than two-thirds (2/3) of the Board.</u></b> The Governmental Advisory Committee and the ICANN Board will then try, in good faith and in a timely and efficient manner, to find a mutually acceptable solution.”</span></i><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">T: +55 61 2030-6609</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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