<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">All,</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">I would like to suggest the following alternative, in the hopes that it can be a broadly acceptable formulation, and thread the needle on some of the discussions we've been having.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4">ICANN shall act strictly in accordance with, and only as reasonably appropriate to achieve its Mission. Without limiting the foregoing:</font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"></p><ul><li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">ICANN shall not impose regulations on:</span><br></font></li><ul><li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4">services (i.e., the software processes by which commands received via the Internet are processed and a response is generated and transmitted via the Internet, to be viewed in a web browser, email client, or the like) which use the Internet’s unique identifiers, or</font></span></li><li><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4">the content that such services carry or provide</font></span></li></ul><li><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">ICANN shall have the ability to enter into and enforce agreements with contracted parties, in furtherance of its Mission.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></font></li></ul><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">Your thoughts would be most appreciated.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">Greg</font></p></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><Drazek>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, Malcolm Hutty <<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Apologies, but is this where we left off on the wordsmithing? Is Milton correct that we’re closer than I thought? Is it just a matter of resolving
the definition around “services?”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Malcolm Hutty<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I'm not looking for a technical definition -- rather a practical definition. Actually, I asked for examples, so a definition may not be necessary, as long as the examples offer sufficient
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">It's important that when the CCWG/Commenters/SOs/ACs/etc. look at the word "services" (or the word services plus some exemplars), they all see the same thing. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Otherwise, we are like "The Six Blind Men and the Elephant" (apologies for culturally-specific, archaic and politically incorrect reference; please note as a counterbalance that I am a member
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Malcolm Hutty <<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/11/2015 18:33, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
> Malcolm,<br>
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> Thanks for your reply. I took those terms from an email you wrote, but<br>
> clearly did not apply it quite correctly. It's critically important to<br>
> get clarity here, and drilling down and getting concrete examples is<br>
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> What are a few examples of what you mean when you say "web service" and<br>
> "other services"?<br>
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On 11/11/2015 18:55, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
> I am trying to get to a concrete and shared understanding of what this<br>
> proposal means when it says "services." Based on the varying responses<br>
> in this and earlier threads, we're not there yet.<br>
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I can't see my stumbling attempts to provide a technical definition<br>
helping this discussion. I'll write to you privately.<br>
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Perhaps Andrew can do better than me, or point us to a formal definition<br>
of a service? Has the IETF produced such a thing?<u></u><u></u></p>
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