<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Agree completely.&nbsp;</div><div><br>On 19 Nov 2015, at 19:20, Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Let's not get distracted by the turkey day sideshow -- we'll make that work (although my wife doesn't usually let me handle sharp objects during CCWG calls...).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Making the public comment period and the resulting analysis meaningful, and making sure that the SO/ACs have the time and tools to come to judgment, and to express concerns if they remain.&nbsp; Those are the real concerns.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Perhaps the chairs can tell us why they insist on sticking to these artificial time lines, what they think it accomplishes? As a U.S. citizen reasonably plugged
 in to the review and oversight process that will take place in NTIA and congress, I see all kinds of sacrifices of legitimacy, efficiency and quality and no serious gain by shortening these time lines<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schaefer, Brett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin; Paul Rosenzweig; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'Accountability Cross Community'</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cc staff all'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline and next steps (updated)<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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 opportunities to non-English speakers? &nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004b8d">Brett</span></b>
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Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs<br>
Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy</span></i><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#58595b">The Heritage Foundation<br>
214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE<br>
Washington, DC 20002<br>
<a href="tel:202-608-6097" value="+12026086097" target="_blank">202-608-6097</a></span><br>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Rosenzweig; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'Accountability Cross Community'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cc staff all'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline and next steps (updated)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To add to Paul's concern, more Americans travel on the day before and after Thanksgiving (11/26 this year) to gather with friends and family than any other day of the year. Scheduling
 a call that day, or the day before or after, will make it impossible for many US participants in the CCWG to join the call.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:navy">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></strong><u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] on behalf of Paul Rosenzweig [<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'Accountability Cross Community'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cc staff all'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline and next steps (updated)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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 I have no standing to object, but this is pretty close to the border of being deliberately exclusionary.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Accountability Cross Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cc staff all &lt;<a href="mailto:cc-staff@lists.ibiblio.org" target="_blank">cc-staff@lists.ibiblio.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline and next steps (updated)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As indicated on call #68, we have designed a detailed roadmap of key dates and milestones toward finalizing theThird Draft Proposal that we invite you to read and mark in your calendars.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">In order to meet our 30 November deadline, it will be important that we all comply with this calendar of deliverables&nbsp;to ensure feedback and edits are incorporated into the Third Proposal in a prompt and appropriate
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 selected so that it is early in day for you&nbsp;in consideration of the U.S. holiday.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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