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On 21 Nov 2015 01:52, "Malcolm Hutty" <<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 20 Nov 2015, at 21:39, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 03:54:09PM -0500, David Post wrote:<br>
> >> This is a good example - can ICANN shut down my domain as part of its<br>
> >> "collaboration with anti-abuse people"?<br>
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> > Unless you're a TLD, ICANN can't shut down your domain anyway (at<br>
> > least not without taking a whole bunch of other people out), so if<br>
> > that's all we're talking about it's not a problem.<br>
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> On the contrary, ICANN can and does cause Registries to shut down some registrants' domains (by requiring them to redelegate it to another person without the initial registrants' consent).<br>
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SO: Just for clarity, is it really ICANN that causes the redelegation or just the Registrar making his/her own decision, perhaps for business reasons? I'd like to hear examples of this as I think it will be indeed a concern if ICANN goes that deep. As to the partial shutdown, should ICANN have shutdown the entire TLD instead?<br></p>
<p dir="ltr">> We are arguing about the scope of circumstances in which ICANN should be permitted to do this. Constraining the range of circumstances is the entire point of this clause.<br>
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SO: If ICANN indeed gets involved in redelegation of a non-TLD except for situation where the TLD is reasigned globally (perhaps due to violation of the initial registry) which should not affect the registrants, then this warrants further look into. That said, I also think this can be a policy issues and a mission statement may not be where to fix it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards<br></p>
<p dir="ltr">> Malcolm.<br>
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