<HTML><BODY><p style='margin-top: 0px;' dir="ltr">Ahhhh.&nbsp; So what formulation of the restrictions do you support?&nbsp; Or have you changed your mind?</p>
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Paul<br>
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Saturday, 21 November 2015, 09:28PM -06:00 from Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>:<br><br><blockquote style='border-left:1px solid #FC2C38; margin:0px 0px 0px 10px; padding:0px 0px 0px 10px;' cite="14481629560000085534">
        



    










        
        

        
        
        
        
        

        

        
        

        
        
        

        
        



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That is your explanation, not mine...<br><br>
At 21/11/2015 09:57 PM, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="">I don't disagre....&nbsp; we go
too fast<br><br>
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Saturday, 21 November 2015, 09:43PM -05:00 from Alan Greenberg
&lt;<a href="//e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aalan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" >alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>
&gt;:<br><br>

And I continue to be very troubled that in haste, we may put into
words, Bylaws that ultimately prevent ICANN from doing its legitimate
business.<br>

Alan<br>

At 21/11/2015 10:35 AM, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:<br><br>
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I agree with Malcolm.&nbsp; I continue to be very troubled that we
cannot put into words this very fundamental concept.&nbsp; All agree
there are some limited circumstances when ICANN can and should be allowed
to impose restrictions on activity through contract.&nbsp;&nbsp; All
agree that there are many other circumstances in which that sort of
action by ICANN would be illegitimate.&nbsp; The Board's proposal seems
to leave the question open to later interpretation and for that reason I
don't favor it -- but I also think it is imperative that some
definitional language be hammered out .... without it the entire premise
of IRP review and a limited ICANN mission founders.<br>

Paul<br>

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Friday, 20 November 2015, 07:52PM -05:00 from Malcolm Hutty
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malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;:<br>
<br>
<br>

On 20 Nov 2015, at 21:39, Andrew Sullivan
&lt;<a href="https://e-aj.my.com//compose?To=ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank" >
ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt;&gt; On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 03:54:09PM -0500, David Post wrote:
&gt;&gt; This is a good example - can ICANN shut down my domain as
part of its
&gt;&gt; &quot;collaboration with anti-abuse people&quot;?
&gt; 
&gt; Unless you&amp;apos;re a TLD, ICANN can&amp;apos;t shut down
your domain anyway (at
&gt; least not without taking a whole bunch of other people out), so
if
&gt; that&amp;apos;s all we&amp;apos;re talking about it&amp;apos;s
not a problem.<br>

On the contrary, ICANN can and does cause Registries to shut down
some registrants&amp;apos; domains (by requiring them to redelegate it to
another person without the initial registrants&amp;apos; consent). <br>

We are arguing about the scope of circumstances in which ICANN should
be permitted to do this. Constraining the range of circumstances is the
entire point of this clause. <br><br>

Malcolm. 
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