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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree fully with Becky here. Also agree strongly with David’s quoted remark.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2015 1:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Silver, Bradley; David Post<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">Bradley, </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">3.7.7.9 speaks about the registration and use of a “Registered Name.” </span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:#333333;background:white">A "Registered Name"
refers to a domain name within the domain of a </span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">gTLD</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:#333333;background:white">…about which a </span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">gTLD</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:#333333;background:white"> Registry
Operator (or an Affiliate or subcontractor thereof engaged in providing Registry Services) maintains data in a Registry Database, arranges for such maintenance, or derives revenue from such maintenance.” To me, that refers to registration and use of a string,
and not a web site.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">That is also consistent with the registrar form of the “picket fence," which allows ICANN to unilaterally obligate registrars to comply with policies (a) covering specific topics
and (b) developed in accordance with specified procedures designed to ensure that they are supported by consensus. The RAA spec (Section 4 of the 2001 RAA and Spec 4 in the 2013 RAA) covers policies regarding <span style="background:white">resolution of disputes
regarding the registration of domain names</span></span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:#333333;background:white"> (as opposed to the use of such domain names</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:red;background:white">,
but including where such policies take into account use of the domain names.) </span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">So, under the Registrar’s form of picket fence, if ICANN has developed a Consensus Policy that covers resolution
of <i>disputes about registrations</i> (e.g., the UDRP, the Rapid Suspension policy, etc.), and that policy takes use into account (I.e, in the case of the UDRP for example, registration of a name “in bad faith” as defined in the UDRP), it is within ICANN’s
authority. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">The question is, could ICANN’s authority to enforce policies regarding <span style="background:white">resolution of disputes regarding the
<i>registration of domain names</i> be stretched to construe use of a <i>web site</i> (as opposed to the string itself) for defamation? I agree with David, </span></span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif"">I "don't think they have that power at
present, I don't think they have had that since the beginning of (ICANN) time, and I sure as heck don't want to them to have it once they are in control of the root and USG oversight is removed.” </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Avenir Next","serif";color:black">Becky</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">J. Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#262626">
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</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#008656">Neustar, Inc.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#068658">
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</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#7D7D7D">Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer<br>
1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20006</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:gray"><br>
</span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#008656">Office:</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#7D7D7D">
</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#7D7D7D">+1.202.533.2932 </span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#008656">Mobile:</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#7D7D7D">
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</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.neustar.biz"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#008656">neustar.biz</span></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><Silver>, Bradley <<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>David Post <<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com">david.g.post@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
"Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>>, Accountability Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is a difference between ICANN having power to “enforce local laws”, as you put it, and ICANN’s ability to enforce its agreements, which have as a reference
point, the conduct of “illegal activity” via an indirect use of a domain name. Let’s be very clear – we are talking about the latter; the question of whether the enforcement of specific provisions on their face, would amount to the kind of regulation you
and others would like to see prohibited. There are a number of forms that enforcement could take which don’t make ICANN a proxy for local law enforcement. For example, one manifestation of this concept is in RAA 3.18.1, which talks about the maintenance
of an abuse contact for reports of illegal activity, which will trigger an obligation to investigate and respond appropriately. RAA 3.7.7.9 is a logical companion to this provision, since it ensures that registrars are able, in accordance with their own
terms of service, to address abuse complaints involving illegal activity, as between them and the registrant involved. We know there is a broader discussion about what that should entail, but I am concerned that the language being proposed to prohibit any
“direct or indirect” regulation will be used to argue that these contractual provisions are outside ICANN’s mission on their face. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> David Post [<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com">mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2015 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Silver, Bradley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Burr, Becky; Alan Greenberg; Greg Shatan; Mueller, Milton L; Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Well, this is illuminating ... <br>
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I take it that at least you and Greg (and perhaps others) think that it is within ICANN's power to enforce, via its power over the DNS entries, local pornography laws, or consumer protection laws, or defamation laws, or ... on the grounds that registrants have
to promise not to infringe any rights of any third parties in any activity they undertake "on the website to which the domain points." So ICANN can set up a Pornography Dispute Resolution Procedure, a Consumer Protection Dispute Resolution Procedure, a Defamation
Dispute Resolution Procedure, to enforce these promises that registrants have supposedly made and to take down violators.
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My response is: I don't think they have that power at present, I don't think they have had that since the beginning of (ICANN) time, and I sure as heck don't want to them to have it once they are in control of the root and USG oversight is removed.
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David<br>
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At 10:51 AM 11/23/2015, Silver, Bradley wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">David, <br>
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That’s an overly narrow reading of RAA 3.7.7.9  - its not only that the registration of the Registered Name infringes or its “direct use”, but also that the manner in which is
<i>indirectly</i> is used. I can’t see how the “indirect” use of the domain cannot also be attributed to infringing uses on the website to which the domain points.  If that’s not at least an “indirect” use, I don’t know what is.   While I
agree with your conclusion, I don’t agree with the reasoning, and I expect there are others (like Milton) who would like to see the clear meaning of the language of 3.7.7.9 changed through the application of the “no regulation” sentence.Â
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Bradley<br>
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<b>From:</b> David Post [<a href="mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com"> mailto:david.g.post@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2015 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Greenberg; Silver, Bradley; Greg Shatan; Mueller, Milton L; Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement<br>
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At 10:03 AM 11/23/2015, Burr, Becky wrote:<br>
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Are we seriously arguing that RAA 3.7.7.9 is outside the picket fence? <br>
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No, I don't think this was out of scope, because it concerns the "registration" of the name and the manner in which THE NAME is used. 3.7.7.9 does not say, in my opnion, that the registrant has to promise that it is not doing anything at a website that is
infringing; the promise is that the name is not being used in an infringing manner.<br>
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D<br>
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At 10:03 AM 11/23/2015, Burr, Becky wrote:<br>
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Are we seriously arguing that RAA 3.7.7.9 is outside the picket fence? <br>
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Section 3.7.7.9 of the RAA has been in place from the beginning of time. Here is the language from the 2001 RAA:<br>
3.7.7.9 The Registered Name Holder shall represent that, to the best of the Registered Name Holder's knowledge and belief, neither the registration of the Registered Name nor the manner in which it is directly or indirectly used infringes the legal rights of
any third party.<br>
Here it is in the 1999 RAA:<br>
7. g. The SLD holder shall represent that, to the best of the SLD holder's knowledge and belief, neither the registration of the SLD name nor the manner in which it is directly or indirectly used infringes the legal rights of a third party.<br>
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As someone who was part of the team drafting and negotiating the 1999 RAA, I can assure you that the inclusion of this requirement in the RAA was intended to be within the scope of ICANN̢۪s Mission.<br>
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J. Beckwith Burr <br>
Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer<br>
1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20006<br>
Office: +1.202.533.2932 Mobile: +1.202.352.6367 / <a href="http://www.neustar.biz">
neustar.biz</a><br>
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From: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> ><br>
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM<br>
To: "Silver, Bradley" <<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com"> Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>>, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> >, "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
Cc: Accountability Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"> accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement<br>
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I rarely fill people's mailboxes just to do this, but in this case;<br>
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+1<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 22/11/2015 08:31 PM, Silver, Bradley wrote:<br>
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I want to echo and support Greg’s resposposponse below. Milton’s position that an en existinting provision of the RAA is out of the scope of ICANNâ€Ã¢Ã¢„¢s mission is illuminating. sp; I had been operating on the (hopeful) presumption that what
we were attempting to do was find a way to describe ICANN’s missionion in a manner that refleflects its current activities, and avoid drafting anything that could adversely impact its continued ability to do so while clearly preventing any undue expansion.
If those who support the language in the second sentence are seeking a way to attack the validity or enforceability of existing contractual provisions, then the concerns of the board are not only well founded, they are grossly understated.
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From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan<br>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:01 AM<br>
To: Mueller, Milton L<br>
Cc: Accountability Cross Community<br>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement<br>
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Milton,<br>
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I strongly disagree that 3.7.7 is out of scope of ICANN's mission. I also don't think it's useless, nor is it an uncommon provision in many terms of service and similar agreements. 3.7.7 only asks for the registrant's "knowledge and belief" -- so they are
not required to know whether they are infringing anywhere under any jurisdiction. They are only required to make reference to what they already know -- an entirely reasonable and ordinary requirement.<br>
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Is it your intent that the new provision we are discussing places 3.7.7 out of scope, and thus serves as a basis for an IRP or other challenge seeking to nullify 3.7.7? Since 3.7.7 is only an "example," what other sections are you trying to place out of scope?<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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Greg<br>
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
><br>
> See section 3.7.7 of the registrar accreditation agreement (RAA):<br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_approved-2Dwith-2Dspecs-2D2013-2D09-2D17-2Den&d=CwMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=11R4XkcvGwOIsQkhhyE47Z7B829g9E2Cip1amJSBQu0&s=5ThaiusaRSYwZuxG3vlUf8hTsMh251yjw_-T7i4DOFg&e=">
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en</a> <br>
><br>
> 3.7.7.9 The Registered Name Holder shall represent that, to the best of the<br>
> Registered Name Holder's knowledge and belief, neither the registration of<br>
> the Registered Name nor the manner in which it is directly or indirectly used<br>
> infringes the legal rights of any third party.<br>
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Bruce: this is a good example of how the RAA is currently out of scope. To begin with, it is a completely useless element of the RAA. This statement does not stop anyone from doing anything, and it does not require ICANN to determine whether a registrant is
infringing someone's rights. And how is anyone supposed to know whether the way they use a domain infringes the legal rights of a third party - anywhere in the world, under any jurisdiction? They cannot know this until and unless someone asserts those rights
against them in a legal system which has jurisdiction and can make a legal determination. Or do we want ICANN to be making this determination? Most would agree that we do not. So what is the purpose, other than to invite ICANN to impose controls or regulations
on virtually anything that happens on the internet?<br>
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