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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Indeed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks, Avri!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. November 2015 17:18<br>
<b>An:</b> Avri Doria <avri@acm.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] advice/recommendation vs. decision making<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Well said Avri <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25 Nov 2015 2:27 am, "Avri Doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
<br>
Neither advice nor a recommendation is a decision.<br>
Both can be rejected by some margin in the Board's decision making.<br>
The two words indicate the same level of decision making.<br>
While nuance may be found in the definitions of advise and recommend,<br>
their relation to another being the decision maker is identical.<br>
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Currently neither AC nor SOs have decision making capability.<br>
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In so far as community powers are decision making capabilities, both SO<br>
and AC are being offered change from the advice/recommendation role to<br>
a decision making role on key ICANN issues. SO are also being given an<br>
extension in scope as they are being given a decision making role<br>
outside their areas of direct responsibility.<br>
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I think that cutting this knot, may be easier done if we avoid<br>
self-aggrandizing the roles of our SO/AC while denigrating the role of<br>
other AC/SO. The attempt we are involved in, is gaining a decision<br>
making role for the community which non of us individually as SO/AC<br>
currently has.<br>
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avri<br>
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