<p dir="ltr">Well said Avri </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 Nov 2015 2:27 am, "Avri Doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
<br>
Neither advice nor a recommendation is a decision.<br>
Both can be rejected by some margin in the Board's decision making.<br>
The two words indicate the same level of decision making.<br>
While nuance may be found in the definitions of advise and recommend,<br>
their relation to another being the decision maker is identical.<br>
<br>
Currently neither AC nor SOs have decision making capability.<br>
<br>
In so far as community powers are decision making capabilities, both SO<br>
and AC are being offered change from the advice/recommendation role to<br>
a decision making role on key ICANN issues. SO are also being given an<br>
extension in scope as they are being given a decision making role<br>
outside their areas of direct responsibility.<br>
<br>
I think that cutting this knot, may be easier done if we avoid<br>
self-aggrandizing the roles of our SO/AC while denigrating the role of<br>
other AC/SO. The attempt we are involved in, is gaining a decision<br>
making role for the community which non of us individually as SO/AC<br>
currently has.<br>
<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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