<div dir="ltr">Nigel, all, I think we can comprehensively rule that out - the CCWG isn't going to agree for it and I am sure Bruce will make sure the Board's final comments don't suggest that that is what it is seeking.<div><br></div><div>Jordan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 November 2015 at 10:50, Nigel Roberts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't think we are far apart, but I do see a thin red line.<br>
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To be clear, I would NOT expect a community initiated Board removal (whether an individual or the whole Board) to go forward unless those proposing it made a case for it.<br>
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But that's not what I'm hearing.<br>
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I'm hearing that the Board want to limit the remove of Board members to "for cause".<br>
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Which is a WHOLE different ball of wax.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 24/11/15 21:38, Bruce Tonkin wrote:<br>
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Hello Nigel,<br>
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But vitiating the community empowered model of removing board members for any reason or none is likely to not help gain acceptance.<br>
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Just to be clear - the Board has no objection to the community power regarding removing Board members.<br>
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We have suggested though that the rationales be clear, and suggested that they could reference the roles and responsibilities of a Board member. That is not intended to limit the reasons for removal, but at least to establish some shared expectations. I don't see any inconsistency between the Board's position and the CCWG in that regard.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Bruce Tonkin<br>
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