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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So far as I can see the Charter indicates that members should solicit the views of the organisations that appointed them:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">"Membership in the CCWG-‐Accountability, and in sub-‐working groups should these be created, is open to members appointed by the
chartering organizations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">…….Each of the chartering organizations shall appoint a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 5 members to the working group in accordance
with their own rules and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best efforts should be made to ensure that individual members:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/enhancing-‐accountability-‐faqs-‐2014-‐08-‐22-‐en#12<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Where appropriate, solicit and communicate the views and concerns of individuals in the organization that appoints them</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">.
[<i>emphasis added</i>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In addition, the CCWG-‐Accountability
<u>will be open to any interested person as a participant.</u> Participants may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">group not represented in the CCWG-‐Accountability, or may be self-‐appointed. Participants will be able to actively participate
in and attend all CCWG-‐Accountability meetings, work groups and sub-‐work groups.
<u>However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision<o:p></o:p></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">will be limited to CCWG-‐Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">."
[<i>emphasis added</i>]</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So a fortiori minority opinions should be from members representing a chartering organisation and I suppose any participants opinions can be expressed as their
own opinion but should be distinguished from those of members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr Eberhard W Lisse<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2015 9:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCWG Accountability<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lisse Eberhard<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Minority statements inclusion in report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">So now a participant, from ALAC, which changes his mind for him as the wind blows, wants to change the charter after the fact. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">The charter could not be clearer on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I support Robin Gross's objection, endorse her minority opinion, object myself and shall forward a minority opinion in due course.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">And for the record I did not, do not and will not consult with the ccNSO on my position. I don't have to.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">And, for the record, I did inform the chair of ccNSO Council earlier, in terms of the charter, about being marginalized. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">The substance of which seeming to be getting traction in the US Appeals Court case.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 30 Nov 2015, at 06:51, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">I believe this particular report is quite critical and minority statement should be treated with adequate clarity and care. It should be clear if minority statements are written on behalf of the originating chartering organisation
(i.e whether the CO has been consulted before such submission is made). The charter was not clear about this but I believe this should be the ideal thing to do at this stage. If member are the ones allowed to write minority reports (although it's not explicitly
stated in the charter) then such exercise should involve coordination with the originating chartering organisation. Or maybe a declaimer be added in minority annexes that the views are those of the author and not of the Chartering organisation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">There may also be possibility that some minority statements could be resolved or perhaps further discussed to provide further clarity that convinces the author not to proceed further, this would imply having them come in early
enough before finalising the report.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">Regards<br>
Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 29 Nov 2015 22:30, "Thomas Rickert" <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">as discussed during the last CCWG call, minority statements will be included in the report as appendices if and when they are received.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Am 29.11.2015 um 21:37 schrieb Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I have still not received a response to this request. What is the process for submitting minority statements? Please advise.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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