<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Robin, all,</div><div>we will amend the language in the appendix. You are correct there was no full consensus and we should have made sure this is reflected in the report. </div><div><br></div><div>Should there be further concerns or questions, please do direct them at us co-chairs instead of staff, please! </div><div>While staff has done and continues to do a great job, it is us co-chairs that are responsible for taking care if such issues.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks and kind regards,</div><div>Thomas </div><div><br><div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">---</span></div><div><a href="http://rickert.net">rickert.net</a></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>Am 01.12.2015 um 22:02 schrieb Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Thanks, Hilary, but Appendix A still contains a big falsehood that should be corrected. It says: “As of 29 November 2015, the proposal has received the consensus support of the CCWG-Accountability with no objections or minority statements recorded for Chartering Organization consideration.” <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">NCSG’s objection and dissent was noted for the record on 2 November (as was Eberhard’s objection) and the specific text of my opinion was sent on 29 November, although no deadline was provided for its inclusion despite my repeated requests for the dissenting statement submission process to be explained.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It simply isn’t a true characterization to claim there was no dissent to any of the recommendations and the record easily demonstrates this falsehood. It does not serve ICANN to attempt to create such a false picture of unanimity on all issues in the report. The report should be able to withstand a single dissent, which deserves to be recorded for Chartering Organization consideration, despite what the drafters (whoever they are) claim. This misrepresentation needs to be fixed or the veracity of everything else in the report is in doubt as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robin<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 1, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Hillary Jett <<a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Avenir, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Robin,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Appendix A has been updated with your minority viewpoint. It is reflected on the Public Comment page that the document has been updated as of 1 December 2015.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-appendix-a-30nov15-en.pdf" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-appendix-a-30nov15-en.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Hillary</div><div class=""><u class=""><br class=""></u></div><div class=""><div class="">-- </div><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">Hillary Jett</b></div><div class="">Communications Coordinator</div><div class="">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mobile: +1 (202) 674-3403</div><div class="">Email: <a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span> Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span> Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:07 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span> Hillary Jett <<a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span> CCWG-Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" class="">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" class="">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, "Mathieu Weill (<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>)" <<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>>, Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" class="">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-ACCT 21-day Public Comment Is Live<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Dear Hilary,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I note that my dissenting opinion was sent on 29 November and was not included in the report upon the report’s publication on 1 December. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Moreover, the report has incorrectly stated that there are no dissenting opinions, however the chairs acknowledged this dissenting opinion during the CCWG meeting on 2 November. Why did the report knowingly make a false statement about no dissent
and why has the dissenting opinion still not been included with the report? I find the delay in fixing this to be unacceptable. If ICANN can’t even be trusted to honestly report on the accountability recommendations, we really have our work cut out for us.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robin</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Robin
Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">November
29, 2015 at 3:40:45 PM PST<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Thomas
Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" class="">thomas@rickert.net</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">León
Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" class="">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, "Mathieu Weill (<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>)" <<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a> Community" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re:
[CCWG-ACCT] Minority statements inclusion in report</b><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">
Thanks, Thomas. See below.
<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">Dissenting Opinion of Member Robin Gross (GNSO-NSCG)</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
The CCWG-Accountability make a number of helpful recommendations to improve organizational accountability at ICANN, however one aspect of the plan is deeply flawed: changing the role of ICANN's Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) from purely an “advisory”
role to a “decision making” role over fundamental matters at ICANN, including its governance. Consequently the proposal marginalizes the role of Supporting Organizations (SO’s) compared to today’s ICANN governance structure. The degree of governmental empowerment
over ICANN resulting from the proposal’s community mechanism is dangerous to the success of the proposal’s political acceptance as well as to its ultimate impact on a free and open Internet.
<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The creation of a community mechanism to hold ICANN accountable on key issues made a critical error by departing from the existing power balance between SO’s and AC’s as determined by relative board appointments. Instead, the proposed community
mechanism elevates the AC’s relative to the SO’s compared with today’s balance on ICANN's board of directors, which does not currently provide a decision making role to GAC, and which retains the primacy of the Supporting Organizations on key decisions, particularly
those within the SO’s mandate. The devaluing of the Supporting Organizations in ICANN’s key decisions was a common theme in both previous public comment periods, however the recommendations not only failed to address this widespread concern, but went even
further in devaluing SO’s in the community mechanism in the 3rd report. The community mechanism failed to take into account the appropriate roles and responsibilities of the various SO’s and AC’s, and the dangers inherent in changing those roles with a “one
size fits all” approach to critical decision making.
<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Additionally, I object to the proposed departure from ICANN’s typical 30-day public comment period on the 3rd report for CCWG-Accountability. The 3rd report’s public comment only allows for 9 days of public comment after the language translations
are scheduled to be published, which is far too short of a public comment period for a report of this significance and with so many important changes since previous drafts.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robin Gross</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 29, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" class="">thomas@rickert.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Dear Robin,</div><div class="">as discussed during the last CCWG call, minority statements will be included in the report as appendices if and when they are received.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Thomas </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 13pt;">---</span></div><div class=""><a href="http://rickert.net/" class="">rickert.net</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class="">
Am 29.11.2015 um 21:37 schrieb Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">Dear Co-Chairs,</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">I have still not received a response to this request. What is the process for submitting minority statements? Please advise.</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Thanks,</span><br class=""><span class="">Robin</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Dear Co-Chairs,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Could you please advise on the proposed schedule and process for ensuring that minority statements will be included in the report [of the executive summary]?</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Thank you,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Robin</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><span class=""></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 30, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Hillary Jett <<a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Avenir, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Robin,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for the note. We will be updating the Appendix tomorrow with minority statements received since 29 November.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Hillary</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">-- </div><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">Hillary Jett</b></div><div class="">Communications Coordinator</div><div class="">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mobile: +1 (202) 674-3403</div><div class="">Email: <a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span>Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Monday, November 30, 2015 at 9:21 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>Hillary Jett <<a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span>CCWG-Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" class="">thomas@rickert.net</a>>,
León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" class="">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, "Mathieu Weill (<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>)" <<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>>,
Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" class="">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-ACCT 21-day Public Comment Is Live<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
Thanks, but the report still incorrectly states that there are no minority opinions. Why hasn’t the NCSG dissenting opinion been posted or acknowledged in the report? Please fix this incorrect information and omission of a dissenting opinion from the report’s
publication.
<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robin</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 30, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Hillary Jett <<a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Avenir, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">Hello all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">The 21-day public comment period of the CCWG-Accountability Draft Work Stream 1 Recommendations has just been posted here: <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en</a>.
The comment period will run from November 30 through 23:59 UTC on December 21. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We hope to begin receiving translations in the next 12-14 days.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you!</div><div class="">Hillary</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">-- </div><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">Hillary Jett</b></div><div class="">Communications Coordinator</div><div class="">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mobile: +1 (202) 674-3403</div><div class="">Email: <a href="mailto:hillary.jett@icann.org" class="">hillary.jett@icann.org</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
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