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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Greg:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">FYI, the survey link worked for me.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Agree that the distinction between comments of Chartering orgs and general public is confusing.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We should have a complete and open public comment period, and then allow the chartering orgs to make up their mind. To my mind, that should be sequential rather
than simultaneous, otherwise doubts could be raised about whether the public comment is meaningful.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] Issues with Providing Public Comments on CCWG-Accountability Proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">All:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Two issues with public comments. The first is primarily logistical. The second is more fundamental. Both are frustrating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">First, the "SurveyMonkey" link for the survey to respond to the Proposal is not working. The link is <a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ccwg-acct-draftproposal">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ccwg-acct-draftproposal</a>
and the response is <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">In any event, it can be difficult to see all of a survey in advance so that responses can be drafted, reviewed and revised appropriately before being entered into the survey. Can a PDF or
other version of the entire survey be circulated here and posted on the public comment page as soon as humanly possible, please?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Second, the public comment page at
<a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en">
https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en</a> has the following statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">The six Chartering Organizations for the CCWG-Accountability are asked to indicate their support for the recommendations in this proposal. At the same time, public participants
not involved with a Chartering Organization are invited to comment on the proposal. </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">This implies that the public comment period is limited to "public participants not involved with a Chartering Organization." </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Does this mean that, for example, the Intellectual Property Constituency is somehow barred from public comment? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Does this also mean that our members, e.g., INTA, are also barred from public comment (since they are "involved" with the GNSO through membership in the IPC)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Does this also mean that members of our members, e.g., "Company X" (a member of INTA), is barred from public comment (since they are "involved" with the GNSO through INTA's membership
in the IPC)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">How about members of the GAC and the ccNSO? Are all the members barred from commenting as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">If any of the above are not barred from public comment, will their public comments somehow be discounted because they are involved with a Chartering Organization, thus not "invited"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">At the very least, it is confusing and off-putting. At worst, it could have the effect of chasing away potential commenters due to their "involvement" with a Chartering Organization.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Clarification would be most appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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