<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I agree with Milton; This is exactly what I said on the call, but unfortunately, the lawyers were asked to come up with a definition. I reminded our long discussion at the beginning of the CCWG work about what is the GPI, and we failed to define it in a way that makes the definition accepted by everyone, or at least a large majority.</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">To be positive, we have to discuss the issues rejected by the board and try to find the right solution instead of trying to prove that the GPI is what the lawyers will define, and thus the board is wrong.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">We don’t have time to go in this long and inefficient way.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 26 déc. 2015 à 02:46, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="">milton@gatech.edu</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">MM: Thomas and all:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I appreciate your pushback on the board’s comments, but I think it is not helpful for the discussion to center on “definition of the global public interest.”<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">There is no definition, and even if we come up with some mutually acceptable verbal construction of what is in “the global public interest” there never will be easy agreement on how that definition is applied to any particular issue we have.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">For example, we may all agree that it is in the GPI for ICANN to be transparent, but still might disagree on finding the appropriate trade off between inspection rights and administrative burdens.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Let’s just accept the fact that the board has an interest in protecting the corporation and will argue from that perspective, and the rest of us have an interest in making the board accountable to the community and will assess issues from that perspective.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">When (or if – because it has not formally done so yet) the board votes that a particular recommendation is not in the GPI, let’s just interpret that as meaning the board doesn’t like it and won’t voluntarily go along with it. Then we have to decide whether to ignore that challenge and press ahead, or not.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Nothing in gained in that interaction by coming up with a verbal definition of GPI. But a lot of time could be wasted in the attempt.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">--MM<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We have asked the Board to provide information on what definition of the Global Public Interest it has used and what the rationale for their current assessment of our recommendations is. The answer to that question is still pending.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">However, we are reaching out to you now as we want to understand better the impact of Global Public Interest as we continue to work on our final recommendations. Our plan is to offer explanations in our final report where we speak to the Global Public Interest and why we are of the opinion that our recommendations in their final form are in the Global Public Interest.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We would therefore appreciate your input at your earliest convenience on</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">1.</span><span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">suggested definition(s) of the Global Public Interest that our group could use;</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">2. which of the recommendations in our 3rd report, if any, give raise Global Public Interest concerns according to your assessment; and</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">3. how you suggest we can resolve the Global Public Interest issues, which are identified.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you very much, kind regards and a great holiday season,</span> <br class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mathieu Weill, Léon Sanchez, Thomas Rickert</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; 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