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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Can you point out where the Charter gives voting rights to members? The relevant text below seems to say just the opposite.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In developing its Proposal(s), work plan and any other reports, the CCWG-Accountability shall seek to act by consensus. Consensus calls should always make best efforts to involve
all members (the CCWG-Accountability or sub-working group). The Chair(s) shall be responsible for designating each position as having one of the following designations: <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">a) Full Consensus - a position where no minority disagrees; identified by an absence of objection<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">b) Consensus – a position where a small minority disagrees, but most agree <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In the absence of Full Consensus, the Chair(s) should allow for the submission of minority viewpoint(s) and these, along with the consensus view, shall be included in the report. <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In a rare case, the chair(s) may decide that the use of a poll is reasonable to assess the level of support for a recommendation. However,
</span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">care should be taken in using polls that they do not become votes</span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">, as there are often
disagreements about the meanings of the poll questions or of the poll results.</span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 29, 2015 3:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chartier, Mike S <mike.s.chartier@intel.com>; avri@acm.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work plan in January<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I read the "they" as being the formally appointed CCWG Members, to whom the charter gives voting rights.<br>
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Alan <br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On December 29, 2015 1:26:44 PM EST, "Chartier, Mike S" <<a href="mailto:mike.s.chartier@intel.com">mike.s.chartier@intel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Avri,<br> I'm a little confused. What do you mean by "they should decide on those issues"?<br><br>Mike<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre> On Dec 29, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br> Hi,<br> <br> I am not into rushing.<br> And certainly not into rushing for rushing sake.<br> <br> But we have committed ourselves to getting the work done and we have a<br> world of people waiting for us to make and end of it. We have been<br> slipping our schedule. While the reasons for slipping the schedule may<br> be legitimate (not always certain of that) it does not mean we haven't<br> slipped on promises. We continue to slip. I think this commits us to do<br> our best to just keep putting one foot in front of the other and<br> continuing to do our best to get the work done. That is not done by<br> taking a<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>leisurely time, but is one the aided by focusing on the work<br> intensively.<br> <br> I still think we should be considering intensive online working weekends. <br> <br> I also think it may be time for the members among us (I am not one) to<br> do some deciding on the issues where we still do not have full<br> consensus. For example, if at the end of the intense work period in<br> January we are still arguing about some details, they should decide on<br> those issues, we should document that fact, and move on.<br> <br> avri<br> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre> On 29-Dec-15 12:15, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<br> Yes <br> Some people rush and rush.<br> In some of the working party meeting in the past there was about 10 participant since others could not afford that.<br> Multiplication if meetings and extension of their duration does not always have good resu<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> lts.<br> We need good plan,good preparation and advance working document and establishment of priorities<br> Kavousd<br> <br> <br> Sent from my iPhone<br> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre> On 25 Dec 2015, at 01:41, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br> Hi,<br> <br> I think the intensive schedule is necessary and we will find a way if we<br> want to have any chance of succeeding with an IANA Transition in 2016.<br> <br> I also think 3hr meetings are ok. We might even consider one or more<br> of those remote weekends of meetings when they do not interfere with<br> people's work.<br> <br> avri<br> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre> On 24-Dec-15 06:58, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<br> Dear Mathieu<br> Thank you for your suggestion<br> As I told you at various occ<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>human being mental capacity should<br> not be overloaded.<br> I have participated in many conference calls since years.<br> Any call which lasts more than two hours was totally inefficient<br> Pls then reduce the duration to maximum two hours<br> Regards<br> Kavouss<br> <br> 2015-12-24 12:25 GMT+01:00 James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net%0b%20%3cmailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net<br> <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>>:<br> <br> I don’t forsee anyone who is not being compensated for their work<br> being able to dedicate 6 hours from a working week to this, I<br> object to rushing things and designing schedules which are<br> unrealistic IMO.<br> <br> -Jg<br> <br> From: <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org%0b%20%20%20%3cmailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<br> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>>> on<br> behalf of Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr%0b%20%20%20%3cmailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<br> <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>><br> Date: Thursday 24 December 2015 at 11:22 a.m.<<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>To: 'Accountability Cross Community'<br> <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org%0b%20%20%20%3cmailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br> <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>><br> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Work plan in January<br> <br> Dear Colleagues,<br> <br> <br> <br> In line with the work plan discussion held on call #72, we wish to<br> inform you that we have decided to increase the number of calls<br> per week to two to allow for an in-depth analysis of the input<br> received on our Draft Proposal, and discuss any complex requests<br> for change there may be. It is currently foreseen that this<br> frequency of calls will only apply to the month of January.<br> <br> <br> <br> As discussed on 22 December, these calls will be plenary and <br> topic-based. You will receive a list of topics in advance of the<br> meetings so that you may plan your participation accordingly.<br> <br> <br> <br> Duration of the calls will also be exte<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>3 hours to allow<br> for ample time to complete our tasks. Calls will be cancelled<br> (and/or duration will be reduced) if deemed unnecessary. <br> <br> <br> <br> Please note that staff will send invites as well as overview of<br> the conference call calendar shortly.<br> <br> <br> <br> We look forward to reconvening in January and wish you a happy<br> holiday season for those of you who celebrate.<br> <br> <br> <br> Best regards<br> <br> Mathieu – Thomas - León<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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