<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Dear Chris and Nigel</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A boat is useful when inundated (check the BBC news). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">With best wishes to all for a happy, healthy, prosperous and successful New Year.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Mark </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Mark Carvell<div>Global Internet Governance Policy</div><div>Department for Culture, Media and Sport</div><div><a href="mailto:mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk" target="_blank">mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk</a></div><div>tel +44 (0) 20 7211 6062</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 December 2015 at 22:30, Chris Disspain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_blank">ceo@auda.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If Nigel is in the same boat as me then he has clearly stowed away. 😀<br>
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> On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:44, Roelof Meijer <<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Chris, Nigel,<br>
><br>
> Let me get this clear: you guys can¹t participate in the calls in January<br>
> because you¹re both on a boat trip?<br>
><br>
> And Nigel wants to abandon the boat because Chris is in too? I can<br>
> understand that, but would have expected it to be the other way around<br>
> (not meaning the boat abandoning Nigel)<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Roelof<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 30-12-15 13:03, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on<br>
> behalf of Nigel Roberts" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> on behalf of <a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net">nigel@channelisles.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I'm very personally in the same boat.<br>
>><br>
>> I have attempted to add some value to the process, but in view of the<br>
>> nature (probably by design) of the proposed work-plan, I'm on the point<br>
>> of abandoning all but the most superficial of participation.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm sure others are in this boat with me ...<br>
>><br>
>>> On 30/12/15 11:28, Chris Disspain wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Mathieu,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for this. Do you have a proposed topic agenda yet. I won¹t be<br>
>>> able to make all the calls (and I expect others will be in the same<br>
>>> boat) so it would helpful to have an overarching agenda for the calls as<br>
>>> soon as possible. Apologies if this has been sent already and I have<br>
>>> missed it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Chris<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:50 , Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear Kavouss, Dear Paul, All,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Some of you have raised concerns about the work plan and the decision<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> schedule two calls a week, announced in my 24th December email.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Participants to our meeting #73 will remember that this issue was<br>
>>>> discussed during that call<br>
>>>> (<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56986612" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56986612</a>).<br>
>>>> Key<br>
>>>> take away was the need for plenary discussions rather than multiplying<br>
>>>> subgroups.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> While we certainly recognize the different views expressed about the<br>
>>>> timeline for delivering our final report, we are also trying to<br>
>>>> organize<br>
>>>> our calls in a manner that enables inclusive and informed debate about<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> comments received. 24 hours of calls in January "only" represent two<br>
>>>> hours<br>
>>>> of discussions per recommendation (leaving aside other types of issues<br>
>>>> that we dedicate time on during our calls). Two hours to fully<br>
>>>> understand<br>
>>>> concerns and find a way forward that is acceptable to all.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We hope that, by using a topic based agenda and providing a thorough<br>
>>>> analysis of the comments received ahead of the call, we can make the<br>
>>>> best<br>
>>>> use of everyone's time during these calls, so that they can remain<br>
>>>> driven<br>
>>>> by the willingness to understand each of the concerns in good faith and<br>
>>>> find common ground, as we have demonstrated in the past that our group<br>
>>>> can<br>
>>>> do.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If needed and desired within the group, we might have to rely on<br>
>>>> intensive<br>
>>>> days (possibly on a week end) as some of you suggested, but we are<br>
>>>> aware<br>
>>>> of the challenges of such an approach and would like to avoid that as<br>
>>>> much<br>
>>>> as possible.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As a follow up to the discussion that took place during our meeting<br>
>>>> #73,<br>
>>>> we will put these proposals for discussion during our next meeting, on<br>
>>>> January 5th, and look forward to your further contributions and<br>
>>>> suggestions.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>> Leon, Thomas & Mathieu<br>
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