<div dir="ltr">Hello George, <div><br></div><div>Your email raises two issues for me: 1. Below, are you simply arguing that organizations (and perhaps you can include individuals in it as well) can NOT represent their own organizations and can only represent their ICANN constituency ? I am not a veteran but as far as I know everyone, being a part of a constituency or not can file a public comment at ICANN! and  if there are discrepancies in the interpretation of those comments they can speak up! </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> &quot;<span style="font-size:12.8px">Brett is arguing below that it is the Heritage Foundation&#39;s position that must be noted as part of the record.  In other words, Brett openly is a representative of the Heritage Foundation, and NOT the ICANN constituency from where he came.</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>2.  I am wondering what you mean by &quot;least personally annoying&quot; !  You put us in little boxes : annoying, less annoying too annoying? and I really wanna know what you mean by Annoying! you mean the ones that speak up and argue against what you think is right? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 January 2016 at 20:07, James Gannon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<div>Its outrageous that a board member would even contemplate taking a position that would logically taken to its conclusion would seek to minimise or reject the views of a constituent of the ICANN community.</div>
<div>I seriously hope you will retract this message George, as its not representative of the high standards you generally display as a veteran of the ICANN board.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>&lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of George Sadowsky &lt;<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday 6 January 2016 at 6:58 p.m.<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>ICANN Board &lt;<a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-board@icann.org</a>&gt;, Accountability Cross Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
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<div>Brett Schaefer is one of the least personally annoying people on the CCWG.  However, this message of his displays openly what is happening.</div>
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<div>Brett is arguing below that it is the Heritage Foundation&#39;s position that must be noted as part of the record.  In other words, Brett openly is a representative of the Heritage Foundation, and NOT the ICANN constituency from where he came.  I
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<div>Many of the CCWG members seem to be representing their personal points of view, or justifying it on the basis of congruence with their own external organization rather than on the basis of positions within their internal ICANN constituency that
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<div>To the extent that this is happening, it&#39;s just outrageous There is no other word for it.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thank you for this. The Heritage Foundation’s opposition to full GAC participation in the empowered community was not noted in the Rec 1
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">On Rec 7 analysis, I’m concerned that our position may be misunderstood. We support including DIDP in an appeals process, but we are very
 much against restricting it to the engagement, escalation, and enforcement staircase because that process is dependent on the Empowered Community. DIDP appeals need to be accessible to everyone, not just the SOACs, and appeals should not require SOAC approval
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">On Rec 11, the one sentence summary gives the impression that we support Rec 11. We do not and offered specific proposals on how to change
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alice Jansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:04 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] On behalf of Co-Chairs - Public comment summary/analysis<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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