<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">George,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m deeply troubling by your attempt to delegitimize the comments of a member of the community in our work. Many of us who try to bring new participants into ICANN are frustrated by attitudes like yours that attempt to delegitimize the views of those who do join, roll-up their sleeves, and do the hard work of participating on these calls, email lists, public comment periods, etc. only to be insulted by board members who don’t like the views expressed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am also concerned about the selectivity of the comments that are highlighted in the staff summaries and that some of them are even quite misrepresentative of the views actually expressed. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The refusal to include the diversity of views expressed on this issue will not serve this accountability reform process nor the broader multi-stakeholder process. Quite a few comments reflected this concern regarding GAC over-empowerment, so it is a concern of numerous parts of the community. We should not sweep that growing concern under the carpet through the selective use of comments and implying that some community members are "less worthy" than others for having their views count in the overall analysis. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please keep this unfortunate incident in mind the next time you want to complain about the community not being “diverse” enough.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:58 AM, George Sadowsky <<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" class="">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Folks,</span><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Brett Schaefer is one of the least personally annoying people on the CCWG. However, this message of his displays openly what is happening.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Brett is arguing below that it is the Heritage Foundation's position that must be noted as part of the record. In other words, Brett openly is a representative of the Heritage Foundation, and NOT the ICANN constituency from where he came. I don't know which one, but it really doesn't matter.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Many of the CCWG members seem to be representing their personal points of view, or justifying it on the basis of congruence with their own external organization rather than on the basis of positions within their internal ICANN constituency that they represent.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">To the extent that this is happening, it's just outrageous There is no other word for it.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">George</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">"Schaefer, Brett" <<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b class="">Re: [CCWG-ACCT] On behalf of Co-Chairs - Public comment summary/analysis</b><br class=""></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">January 6, 2016 at 11:44:06 AM EST<br class=""></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span class="" style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;">Alice Jansen <<a href="mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">alice.jansen@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alice,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thank you for this. The Heritage Foundation’s opposition to full GAC participation in the empowered community was not noted in the Rec 1 analysis. As stated in our comment, we think that GAC should be strictly advisory.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">On Rec 7 analysis, I’m concerned that our position may be misunderstood. We support including DIDP in an appeals process, but we are very much against restricting it to the engagement, escalation, and enforcement staircase because that process is dependent on the Empowered Community. DIDP appeals need to be accessible to everyone, not just the SOACs, and appeals should not require SOAC approval at any threshold. This may require moving DIDP appeals to the request for reconsideration process.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">On Rec 11, the one sentence summary gives the impression that we support Rec 11. We do not and offered specific proposals on how to change the text to address our concerns, which were not included in the Rec 11 analysis.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Brett<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr align="left" width="200" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(0, 75, 141); font-weight: bold;">Brett</span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(0, 75, 141); font-weight: bold;"></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(0, 75, 141); font-weight: bold;">Schaefer</span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(88, 89, 91); font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;"><br class="">Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs</span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(88, 89, 91); font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;"></span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(88, 89, 91); font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;"><br class="">Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy</span><br class=""><font color="#58595b" size="2" class="">The Heritage Foundation<br class="">214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE<br class="">Washington, DC 20002</font><span class="" style="font-size: x-small; color: rgb(88, 89, 91);"><br class="">202-608-6097</span><br class=""><font color="#004b8d" size="2" class=""><a href="http://heritage.org/" class="" style="color: rgb(0, 75, 141); text-decoration: none;">heritage.org</a><br class=""><span class="" style="font-size: x-small;"></span><span class="" style="font-size: x-small;"></span><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></font><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div class=""><div class="" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alice Jansen<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:04 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[CCWG-ACCT] On behalf of Co-Chairs - Public comment summary/analysis<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><u class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">On behalf of CCWG-ACCT Co-Chairs</span></u><span class="apple-tab-span"><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Dear all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Attached to this email you will find a staff produced summary and analysis of the public comments received on our Draft Proposal.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">In preparation for our January discussions, we encourage you to read the document as well as comments available for full reference at: <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/</a>. Note: a <i class="">download all</i> page is available at <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613</a> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Please note that we cannot convert the spreadsheet into a PDF, the tabs and spreadsheet being too large. Thank you for your understanding. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Staff will post the summary on the public forum box on Friday, 8 January - <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en</a>. In the meantime, it is located on your wiki at <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613" class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thank you <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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