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I agree that the process could be simplified. Merging the petition and
conference call might be possible, but it would have to be done with care
to ensure that there is proper time to "socialize" the need to
exercise the power, or we will never get the critical mass needed. It is
important that the other AC/SOs (those who did not originate the
petition) have a proper opportunity to consider the issue and ensure that
their community participates in the Community Forum. If they don't they
will not likely support the final action.<br><br>
On changing the numbers to percentages, I personally think that the
numbers should be a conscious decision at the time the number of AC/SOs
is increased, but the percentages would provide good guidelines, and I
suspect I could live with them as defaults. They seem to work as the
number increases from 5. They do NOT work if you decrease below 5
participating. I have attached a PDF of a spreadsheet showing the
calculations.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 06/01/2016 12:06 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi all<br><br>
Just a couple of general comments.<br><br>
On the timeframe concern, I think we face a hard juggle to keep the times
reasonably tight on the one hand (so things don't drag where a power
should be used), and making sure the powers are actually
workable.<br><br>
If we have to lengthen the times for any steps I think we should look for
ways to not see the total timeframe to use a power blow out.<br><br>
My primary proposal to achieve that is to merge the petitioning and
conference call steps. I wasn't able to be part of the discussion about
the escalation process in Dublin because I was detained on other small
groups, but I never supported adding another step to our quite clean
"Petition, Forum, Decision" model from the second
draft.<br><br>
So if we were to go ahead in this way, an SO or AC would decide to
petition to use the power. If that petition was successful, according to
its own rules, a Community Forum would be organised.<br><br>
I think we are clearer than we were at one point that the Community Forum
isn't a chance for travelling and getting together in person: it's an
online Adobe meeting, which is highly unlikely ever to take one day or
two. <br><br>
In other words, having both a Conference Call and a Community Forum
essentially duplicates the same thing, with no benefit that is entirely
obvious.<br><br>
Merging the two steps will help avoid a time frame blowout.<br><br>
I can't recall whether or not we had said more than one SO or AC needed
to petition to use a power but we could use the same threshold as
required to hold a Forum, in merging the steps.<br><br>
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On changing the #s to %s in the decision table, I don't know how workable
this is - it risks unintentionally creating too-high thresholds or
too-low ones, given the low number of SOs and ACs involved. I think I
would prefer to stick with numbers, and adjusting them should the numbers
of SOs or ACs change in future, but don't have a strong view about
that.<br><br>
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Hope this helps.<br><br>
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cheers<br>
Jordan<br><br>
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On 6 January 2016 at 15:55, Alice Jansen
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review.
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