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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Kavouss<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It wasn’t me who first proposed the question which was decided tob e further refined with the ICANN Legal. I was one of
the supporters of that move. And what matters is that the CCWG had decided to move ahead with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Under that understanding the GAC included the first para I quoted: “<i>The GAC notes that legal advice is
<u>being sought by the CCWG to clarify the<o:p></o:p></u></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">practical effect of this Recommendation, and believes this is appropriate</span></u></i><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">.</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I feel the other elements in the GAC input (which you quote) could serve to formulate an appropriate legal question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Perhaps the co-chairs would be willing to form a small group which, under their guidance, could formulate such a question,
after receiving the feedback from ICANN Legal which was agreed to be requested.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 7. Januar </span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2016 19:46<br>
<b>An:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch><br>
<b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org; Mathieu Weill <Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr>; Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de>; Schneider Thomas BAKOM <Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>; Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr@neustar.biz>;
Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes Jorge, it did and thanks for clarification.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But tell me hiow do you want that the matter beaddressed .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are several provision in the ICANN Mission Staement, Nobady has asked that the legal Team ensure that those provisions would be fully implemented.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is the GAC STATMENT<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="color:#500050">"The GAC expects that any changes will not reduce the current role of the GAC in providing advice on the activities of ICANN as they relate to concerns of governments, particularly matters where there may
be an interaction between ICANN’s policies and various laws and international agreements or where they may affect public policy issues (as provided in the current ByLaws). This includes issues such as consumer protection, the respect for fundamental rights
and freedoms and law enforcement." </span></em><i><span style="color:#500050"><br>
</span></i><span style="color:#500050">Unquote<br>
What do you expect from the lawyers to acertain.? How they can acertain ? what is the assurance that whatever they acertain will be im plemented ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">Unless you put some text in the BALAWS
</span><span style="color:#222222">which must be discussed and agreed by CCWG and put it to public comments </span><span style="color:#500050"><br>
there is no legal certainty that the GAC statemnt be implemented <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">The second statemnet is </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">Quote<br>
<em> </em>"<em>The GAC further expects that changes to ICANN’s mission and core values should not constrain the Board from accepting and implementing GAC advice. In addition, ICANN’s ability to enforce contractual obligations and act upon the public policy
advice of the GAC should not be inadvertently impacted."</em></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">Unquote</span><br>
The same questions are also appicable <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not see any possible means to further pursue the matter unless some language to that effect be included in the Byélas which must be discussed and agreed by CCWG and put it to public comments
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Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kavouss <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2016-01-07 18:54 GMT+01:00 Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 05:29:34PM +0000, Malcolm Hutty wrote:<br>
> The trouble with your argument that we can just trust the Board to remain within the Mission when invited by the GAC to stray beyond it, without a mechanism to review their decisions, is that the same argument applies equally to the case of the Board acting
inconsistently with the Bylaws in any other way, as it does to the specific case of the Board acting inconsistently with the Mission limitation.<br>
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But I'm not making that argument (hence the tripartite response). But<br>
re-reading my message, I certainly didn't make my point clear. All I<br>
was trying to say was that, given the empowered community and the new<br>
accountability and so on, the case where the board will decide to<br>
wander out of its areas of responsibilty seems lower. And then, even<br>
if it does, we have the other mechanisms in place.<br>
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<span class="im">Best regards,</span><br>
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<span class="im">A</span><br>
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<span class="im">Andrew Sullivan</span><br>
<span class="im"><a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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