George<div><br></div><div>Thank you for reaching out. I want to assure you that any discontent I have been expressing is out of concern for the IANA transition being completed with a sound form of accountability in place - in addition to the other requirements needed for a successful transition. </div><div><br></div><div>I've noted your appeal for trust and a trust-based form of accountability that is congruent with the open multi-stakeholder culture in ICANN. From my perspective, a viable form of trust-based accountability must rest on there being some form of sanctions-based accountability in place, however minimal. Otherwise we are left with a situation of asymmetrical power relations as between the Board and the Community, which can only breed the kind of mistrust you have identified in the CCWG-A processes.</div><div><br></div><div>Why I objected so strongly to the Board's insertion of the GPI into its response to the Third Proposal is that it exacerbates this asymmetry, gets people's backs up at a point when everyone needs to focus on the narrow and concrete issues still standing in the way of a consensus proposal, rather than the broad and abstract issues raised in setting up the GPI as a criterion with which to judge key aspects of the Third Proposal. I believe that we are so close to reaching consensus on the Accountability Proposal that extra care needs to be taken to bring everyone along - to a point where the key elements are acceptable to everyone, without diluting the need for an implementable system of accountability. Once these basics are in place, I think you will find it easier to address the issue of trust-based accountability because it will be clear what will happen when there is a breakdown of trust between the Board as accountable actor and the Community as accountability forum.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm happy to take this offline and to meet up with you in Marrakech.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div>Willie</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Friday, January 8, 2016, George Sadowsky <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','george.sadowsky@gmail.com');" target="_blank">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Willie,<div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for responding, and for opening a dialogue on a subject about which you feel some discontent. I wish that this would happen more often, and much faster, so that we can separate the real differences of opinion from the misconceptions and negative feelings that seem to sprout like weeds.</div><div><br></div><div>I can say with certainty that the Board is _not_ calculating its moves in order to disrupt the CCWG's attempt to forge consensus. But I accept that you feel this way. I assume that your use of the phrase " ... every move that the Board makes ... " is exaggeration; that's OK, I exaggerate sometimes also.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that the GPI debate had its absurdities. I do not speak for the Board, but I suppose that the Board could have said instead, "It is our belief that .... " or some such thing. What seemed absurd to me was that attention seemed to immediately gravitate toward trying to define the GPI rather than looking at the substance that the Board referred to.</div><div><br></div><div>With respect to previous incidents that correspond to your feeling, this will take a more extended conversation. Rather than subject the list to this (unless you really want to) I suggest that we take this off line and definitely plan to meet in Marrakech for an in-depth discussion. We seem to have different views, and perhaps exploration of each others' sense of things will be educational for us both.</div><div><br></div><div>Does that make sense to you? Can we meet in Marrakech? Just the two of us? With others? Your call.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>George </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:52 AM, william currie <<a>willie.currie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">George<div><br></div><div>What I find disturbing is that every move the
Board makes seems to be designed to disrupt the CCWG's attempts to forge
consensus on the accountability proposal - this absurd GPI debate being
the latest example.</div><div><br></div><div>When this happens repeatedly in a complex process, one begins to question the bona fides of the actor concerned.</div><div><br></div>Willie</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 10:48 PM, George Sadowsky <span dir="ltr"><<a>george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">No, Willie,<div><br></div><div>It is not a joke. The phrase "global public interest" and ICANN's responsibility for acting in a manner consistent with it, are mentioned a number of times in the Affirmation of Commitments, which is to be included in the revised bylaws.</div><div><br></div><div>I find it really distressing that you think that the Board is joking in its contacts with the CCWG. </div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>George</div></font></span><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:49 PM, william currie <<a>willie.currie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>This is some kind of a joke from the Board, right?<div><br></div><div>No one ever tries to define the public interest. It is what it is.</div><div><br></div><div>Willie<br><div><br>On Sunday, December 27, 2015, Nathalie Coupet via Accountability-Cross-Community <<a>accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>+1 Kavouss<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri"> Dear Milton,</font></span></b></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">I fully and wholeheartzedly Agree and support you </font></span></b></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"></span></b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">I tries to put together something to show that is is absolutely difficulté ,if not impossible to have anagreed definition for Global Public Interest.</font></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">From the text appears below you will note the difficulties and impossibilities.</font></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">I DO NOT UNDERSTAND INSISTANCE OF SOME PEOPLE PUSHING TO HAVE A DEFINITION , in particular, believing that the legal adviser s are miracle makers</font></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">WE MUST ABBANDONE TAKING THAT PATH . This issue should be included in the agenda of the 05 January call.</font></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Legal Adviser are kindly requested to hold on the action on this issue until the matter is discussed and agreed upon by CCWG</font></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">pLEASE FIND BELOW SOME WORDS IN THIS REGARD INDICATING THE DIFFICULTIES TO TAKE SUCH APPROACH ( ATTEMPTING TO DEFINE GPI)</font> </div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt">See Below</div><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font>Global
Public Interest composed of three words ; Global, Public and Interest, each of
which has some meaning and application in an discrete fashion <span> </span>as follows: <span> </span></font></font></font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Some
available definition of Gl<span>obal</span> </font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="list-style-type:decimal;direction:ltr"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt"><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spherical" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US"><font color="#0000ff">Spherical</font></span></a><span lang="EN-US"> <span> </span>:
of, relating to, or involving the entire sphere</span></p></li></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="2" type="1"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worldwide" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US"><font color="#0000ff">Worldwide</font></span></a><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span> :of, relating to, or involving the entire world
: </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/universal" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US"><font color="#0000ff">Universal</font></span></a><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span> :of, relating to, or applying to a whole
universe: </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Some
available Definition of P<span>ublic</span> </font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">exposed to general view :
</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">of, relating to, or affecting
all the people or the whole area of a nation or state ; <i>public law</i></span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">of or relating to a government ,
of, relating to, or being in the service of the community or nation</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">of or relating to people in
general </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">of or relating to business or
community interests as opposed to private affairs </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">devoted to the general or
national welfare </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">accessible to or shared by all
members of the community</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">capitalized in shares that can
be freely traded on the open market </span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">supported by public funds and private
contributions rather than by income from commercials (<i>public radio></i>
<i><public television)</i></span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri"> </font></span><br></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font>Examples
of <i>public</i></font></font></font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><i><span lang="EN-US">Public</span></i><span lang="EN-US"> outrage over the scandal
eventually forced him to resign.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">The ads are intended to
increase <i>public</i> awareness of the risks of smoking.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">She was elected to a <i>public</i>
office.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">He was in Congress for many
years but he recently retired from <i>public</i> life.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">They decided on a nearby
restaurant as a convenient <i>public</i> place to meet.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">The government has allowed <i>public</i>
access to the documents.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">The city council is holding a <i>public</i>
meeting.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">This will be her first <i>public</i>
performance in five years.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><li style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US">Her trial will be <i>public</i>.</span></li><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri"> </font></span><br></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Use of term “Public”</font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><i><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">As a noun, the
whole body politic, or the aggregate of the citizens of a state, nation, or
municipality. The community at large, without reference to the geographical
limits of any corporation like a city, town, or county; the people.</font></span></i></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><i><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">As an
adjective, open to all; notorious. Open to common use. Belonging to the people
at large; relating to or affecting the whole people of a state, nation, or
community; not limited or restricted to any particular class of the community.</font></span></i></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Further use of
term “public”</font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="list-style-type:decimal;direction:ltr"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt"><span lang="EN">as a
noun</span></p></li></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">The people of the
nation, state, county, district or municipality, which the government serves. </font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><ol style="list-style-type:decimal;direction:ltr"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt"><span lang="EN">as an
adjective</span></p></li></ol><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Referring to any
agency, interest, property, or activity which is under the authority of the
government or which belongs to the people. This distinguishes public from
private interests as with public and private schools, public and private
utilities, public and private hospitals, public and private lands, and public
and private roads.</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font>Some
available definition <span> </span>of I<span>nterest:</span></font></font></font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">A feeling
of wanting to learn more about something or to be involved in something</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">A quality
that attracts your attention and makes you want to learn more about something
or to be involved in something</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Something
(such as a hobby) that a person enjoys learning about or doing</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><h2 style="background:white;margin:0.83em 0cm"><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"><font size="5">Public Interest</font></span></h2><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:7.5pt 0cm 4.5pt;line-height:14.65pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">One of the simple definitions
of Public interest could be: </span></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:7.5pt 0cm 4.5pt;line-height:14.65pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Anything</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">affecting</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">the</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">rights,</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">health,</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">or<span> </span><span>finances</span><span> </span>of<span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>public</span><span> </span>at<span> </span><span>large.</span></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:7.5pt 0cm 4.5pt;line-height:14.65pt"><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Public</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">interest</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">is<span> </span>a<span> </span><span>common</span><span> </span><span>concern</span><span> </span><span>among</span><span> </span><span>citizens</span><span> </span>in<span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>management</span><span> </span><span>and</span><span> </span></span><font><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">affairs</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></font><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"><font>of local, </font><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)"><span>state,</span></span><span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)">andnational</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)"> </span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)">government.</span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)"> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64)">It<span> </span><span>does</span><span> </span><span>not</span><span> </span><span>mean</span><span> </span><span>mere</span><span> </span><span>curiosity</span><span> </span><span>but</span><span> </span>is<span> </span>a<span> </span><span>broad</span><span> </span><span>term</span><span> </span><span>that</span><span> </span><span>refers</span><span> </span>to<span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>body</span><span> </span><span>politic</span><span> </span><span>and</span><span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>public</span><span> </span><span>weal.</span><span> </span>A<span>public</span><span> </span><span>utility</span><span> </span>is<span> </span><span>regulated</span><span> </span>in<span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>public</span><span> </span><span>interest</span><span> </span><span>because</span><span> </span><span>private</span><span> </span><span>individuals</span><span> </span><span>rely</span><span> </span>on<span> such</span><span> </span>a<span> </span><span>company</span><span> </span><span>for</span><span> </span><span>vital</span><span> </span><span>service</span></span></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Can we define Public Interest in a broader/ general
term?</font></span></b></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">From a broad
perspective, it is not appropriate to believe that a detailed general
definition would serve a useful purpose: individual circumstances are too
variable and such a definition would inevitably result in unintended and/or unanticipated
or unexpected consequences. It should be emphasize that when justifying an
action as being in the public interest</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Using such a
framework will allow those advocating an action in the public interest to
understand what they mean, and, if explained, will allow those assessing the
action or proposal to determine whether they can support the measure as being
in the public interest. </font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Another simple
definition of public interest could be :</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Welfare the
general public (in contrast to the selfish interest of a person, group or firm)
in which the whole society has a stake and which warrants recognition,
promotion and protection by the government and its agencies. Despite the
vagueness of the term, public interest is claimed generally by governments in matters
state secrecy and confidentiality. It is approximated by comparing expected gains
and potential costs or losses associated with a decision, policy, program or
project </font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">in acting in public interest,,
each circumstance needs to be assessed based on criteria such as the relevant
public, wants, and constraints. The key to assessing any public interest
decision is transparency of the decision-making process, including balancing
competing interests.</font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p><span lang="EN"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">The term has grown working toward
a multitude of objectives, including civil rights, civil liberties, women’s
rights, consumer rights, environmental protection, and so on. Nevertheless, a
common denominator for public interest remains the ethic of “fighting for the
little guy”—that is, representing the underrepresented and vulnerable segments
of society. </font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">International law is one of the fastest growing legal fields. The types
of public service work and practice settings vary widely. The U.S. Government
hires attorneys to work on international issues in many of its agencies,
including the Department of State, the Department of Commerce and the
Environmental Protection Agency, to name just a few. Hundreds of lawyers also
work at the United Nations, the World Bank, the Organization of American
States, international tribunals, the International Criminal Court and other
intergovernmental organizations. Finally, there are thousands of
non-governmental organizations throughout the world that focus on international
issues, including but not limited to, development, human rights, the
environment law, energy, trade, arms control, and transitional justice.</span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">Another definition of Public Interest is :</span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">1. The welfare or well-being of the general public; commonwealth. </span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">2. Appeal or relevance to the general populace: a news story of public
interest."</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_interest#cite_note-1" target="_blank"><sup><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN"><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">[</font></span></sup></a><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN"><font> </font></span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">Public interest must be assessed impartially and, therefore, the public interest
could be defined as the "</span><a title="Ex ante" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_ante" target="_blank"><i><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN"><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">ex ante</font></span></i></a><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN"> welfare of the representative individual.", by assuming that there
is an equal chance for one to be anyone in society and, thus, could benefit or
suffer from a change, the public interest is by definition enhanced whenever
that change is preferred to the status quo <i>ex ante</i>. This approach is
"<i>ex ante</i>", in the sense that the change is not evaluated after
the fact but assessed before the fact without knowing whether one would
actually benefit or suffer from it.</span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN"> </span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">Now to have a general understanding of Global Public Interest ,one needs
to put a combination of the above simplified terms and definition</span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">We then immediately find that it is " Mission Impobile" </span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN">Kavouss </span></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt" lang="EN"> </span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-26 9:40 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear All,</div><div>I also fully agree with Milton.</div><div>If we remember, at the beginning of our work we attempted to find a possible description , and not definition as there would be no Universally agreed definition for GPI, we concluded that we better not to follow that path.</div><div>It is waste of time to re-start such useless work again thus question to lawyer MUST BE WITHDRAWN. If , and only if , the Lawyers find some thing , that does not mean that we have to accept that just because it comes from lawyers.</div><div>The GPI is one of the most complex and multidimensional as well as cross cutting cultural issue that will take us no where.</div><div>The board MUST provide the basis under which it reject a given Rec. or part if the Rec. since we the CCWG do not hsve and certainly will not have an agreed definition for GPI.</div><div>The CCWG must clearly mentions to ICANN Board that have serious concerns to accept rejection of any Rec. or part of a Rec. on the ground of being in contradiction of GPI for which there is no definition.</div><div>We SHALL NOT waste it time to define that nor accept any rejection by the Board on the ground of non- existence definition.</div><div>We should all stop any imposition of any action from any source</div><div>Kavouss </div><div> <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On 26 Dec 2015, at 07:52, Greg Shatan <<a>gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I agree with Milton (and Alan).<div><br></div><div>Greg<span></span><br><br>On Friday, December 25, 2015, Alan Greenberg <<a>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">I find myself agreeing completely with Milton.<br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On December 25, 2015 8:46:35 PM EST, "Mueller, Milton L" <<a>milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">MM: Thomas and all:</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I appreciate your pushback on the board’s comments, but I think it is not helpful for the discussion to center on “definition
of the global public interest.” </span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is no definition, and even if we come up with some mutually acceptable verbal construction of what is in “the
global public interest” there never will be easy agreement on how that definition is applied to any particular issue we have.
</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For example, we may all agree that it is in the GPI for ICANN to be transparent, but still might disagree on finding
the appropriate trade off between inspection rights and administrative burdens.</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Let’s just accept the fact that the board has an interest in protecting the corporation and will argue from that perspective,
and the rest of us have an interest in making the board accountable to the community and will assess issues from that perspective.
</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">When (or if – because it has not formally done so yet) the board votes that a particular recommendation is not in the
GPI, let’s just interpret that as meaning the board doesn’t like it and won’t voluntarily go along with it. Then we have to decide whether to ignore that challenge and press ahead, or not.
</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nothing in gained in that interaction by coming up with a verbal definition of GPI. But a lot of time could be wasted
in the attempt.</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">--MM</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We have asked the Board to provide information on what definition of the Global Public Interest it has used and what the rationale
for their current assessment of our recommendations is. The answer to that question is still pending.</span></p><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">However, we are reaching out to you now as we want to understand better the impact of Global Public Interest as we continue to work
on our final recommendations. Our plan is to offer explanations in our final report where we speak to the Global Public Interest and why we are of the opinion that our recommendations in their final form are in the Global Public Interest.</span></p><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We would therefore appreciate your input at your earliest convenience on</span></p><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2. which of the recommendations in our 3rd report, if any, give raise Global Public Interest concerns according to your assessment; and</span></p><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3. how you suggest we can resolve the Global Public Interest issues, which are identified.</span></p><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you very much, kind regards and a great holiday season,</span> <br>
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