<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think that this is a critically important question (or set of questions). I would not limit this inquiry to GAC advice. As such, I find myself somewhat more aligned with Avri's and Andrew's formulations, though they are not inconsistent with Finn's formulation, as far as it goes.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would formulate the inquiry somewhat differently (and I think more simply): </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b>What policies that have been adopted by ICANN or actions taken by ICANN would be prohibited as "out of scope" if the revised Mission language is applied?</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This avoids, in the first instance, the question of whether these policies or actions are within ICANN's Mission. If any policies or actions are identified as being prohibited under the revised Mission language then either (1) the policies and actions were out of scope when adopted or taken or (2) the ICANN Mission is being changed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Either way, I think it's important to be clear about the effects of the revised language, in order to come to a common understanding of those effects -- whether or not we agree that a particular effect is desirable.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We avoided this question once -- through the use of "grandfathering" -- but we shouldn't avoid it again (especially since there is disagreement about how far "grandfathering" goes).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The alternative is a future filled with "gotcha" scenarios, where as-yet-unrevealed consequences are unveiled after the transition. This would fail both as a matter of transparency and as a matter of good governance.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Finn Petersen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:FinPet@erst.dk" target="_blank">FinPet@erst.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Milton,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">With all respect – you are answering the question! Sorry if I had not formulated the question properly.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">So let me try again.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Is there, in your view, any kind of GAC advice that today (with the current Mission Statement) is within ICANN’s mission, but that in the future with the revised Mission Statement as defined in the
CCWG 3rd draft report would be outside the revised mission for ICANN, so that the Board does not have the possibility any longer to take the advice into account? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">I hope the question is clearer now. There are only two possible answers: yes or no!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Finn<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mueller, Milton L [mailto:<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>]
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<b>Sendt:</b> 8. januar 2016 23:18<br>
<b>Til:</b> Finn Petersen; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> RE: Mission Statement<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Finn,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From our latest exchanges regarding the new Mission Statement and as stated in the chat yesterday, DK is of the view that the Board can of course only take decisions
based on GAC advice that is within the ICANN’s mission. <span style="color:#1f497d">
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">MM: Thank you for that.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">But what we have been seeking is a clear answer to see if the proposed changes to the Mission Statement would imply that the Board in the future would be further
constrained in taking GAC advice into account.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">MM: Well, it depends on the advice, doesn’t it?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I understood from Becky during our CCWG call yesterday, “that ICANN should be able to continue to accept and implement GAC advice as it has been”– in other words
the Board will have the same possibility to take into account GAC advice in the future (after the IANA transition) as the Board has today. If that is the case, I would think that it is now crystal clear to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">MM: As above, if GAC advises ICANN to do things that are outside its mission you can expect challenges.
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