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Thanks Steve - if there is agreement that these are suitable
definitions perhaps we can have the report refer to them so as to
avoid confusion as to scope, etc.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/01/2016 15:07, Steve DelBianco
wrote:<br>
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Please see these working definitions of ‘Consumer' and
'Consumer Trust', from the 2012 Working Group that defined
measures and metrics for the AoC Review of the 2012 gTLD
expansion (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/cctc/cctc-final-advice-letter-05dec12-en.pdf">link</a>
to WG report, page 5):</div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><b>Consumer</b> is
defined as actual and potential Internet users and
registrants.</font></div>
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<div><b>Consumer Trust</b> is defined as the confidence
Consumers have in the domain name system. This includes </div>
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<div>(i) trust in the consistency of name resolution </div>
<div>(ii) confidence that a TLD registry operator is
fulfilling the Registry’s stated purpose and is
complying with ICANN policies and applicable national
laws and </div>
<div>(iii) confidence in ICANN’s compliance function.</div>
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<div><b>Consumer Choice</b> is defined as the range of
options available to Consumers for domain scripts and
languages, and for TLDs that offer meaningful choices as
to the proposed purpose and integrity of their domain
name registrants.</div>
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</div>
<div><b>Competition</b> is defined as the quantity,
diversity, and the potential for and actual market
rivalry of TLDs, TLD registry operators, and registrars.</div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">That WG was created per a
Dec-2010 Board resolution (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-10dec10-en.htm">link</a>) </font><font
face="Calibri,sans-serif">requesting advice from the GNSO,
ccNSO, ALAC and GAC on establishing the definition,
measures, and three-year targets for competition, consumer
trust and consumer choice in the context of the DNS in
preparation for the AoC required review of the 2012 gTLD
expansion.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"> </font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">The WG's final <a
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was adopted by its chartering organizations, GNSO and ALAC,
with ALAC adding several additional measures. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">I</font><font
face="Calibri,sans-serif"> believe these definitions are
appropriate and workable for purposes of reviewing ICANN’s
remit in expanding the gLTD space. They aren’t universal
definitions to apply for everything ICANN does, but </font></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, January
9, 2016 at 3:32 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CCWG-ACCT] "Consumer Trust" in the Mission Statement<br>
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<div>"Furthermore,under EU law, the notion of consumer does
not extend to </div>
<div>legal persons, even if they have a non-business
character (e.g. </div>
<div>non-profit associations).</div>
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<div>The Court of Justice has consis-</div>
<div>tently held that EU definitions of consumer must</div>
<div>not be given a wider interpretation."</div>
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<div>On 01/09/2016 10:30 PM, Nigel Roberts wrote:</div>
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<div>The definition of 'consumer' in this is problematic.</div>
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<div>In EU legislation it generally excludes
businesses. A common</div>
<div>understanding would be a 'natural person acting
outside the scope of an</div>
<div>economic activity'.</div>
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<div>On 01/09/2016 09:56 PM, Bruce Tonkin wrote:</div>
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<div>Hello Malcolm,</div>
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<div>Even if rephrased, I don't think I understand
what is intended to be</div>
<div>meant by "consumer trust".</div>
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<div>It is a general term like human rights and public
interest.</div>
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<div>I think the key is that it needs to be grounded in
what it means for</div>
<div>ICANN's limited mission.</div>
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<div>If we are talking about domain names it could be
that:</div>
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<div>- a domain name resolves deterministically to a
particular resource</div>
<div>connected to the Internet</div>
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<div>(the implementation of DNSSEC at the root was
intended to help with that)</div>
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<div>- there is a legal person that can be contacted
when there is a</div>
<div>problem with the operation of the domain name</div>
<div><br>
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<div>(the collection and publication of contact
information was intended to</div>
<div>help with that)</div>
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<div>What it should not be in my personal view:</div>
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<div>- anything to do with the content of a website that
might be referred</div>
<div>to by the domain name</div>
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<div>- anything to do with the characteristics of a
legal person associated</div>
<div>with a domain name that might be inferred from the
name</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Bruce Tonkin</div>
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