<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div>I WE COULD QUICKLY AND SIMPLY RESOLVE 7 ADDRESS THE ISSUE I HAVE NO PROBLEM</div><div>GAC had always provided such reasons/ Rationale..</div><div>My anxiety is we strat a big round of discussions among those who are so knoweedgeable in evry and all areas that we may not get out of it.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-01-18 18:03 GMT+01:00 Edward Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>I concur with Steve. This is a very important <strong>requirement</strong>. Not only did it have broad support during the public comment period but it's simple common sense: for advice to have any value to the Board the reasoning behind the advice needs to be provided. A simple "we don't like it" is of little value, although if provided as a rationale the lack of depth of the reasoning would perhaps speak for itself. I view this as a part of the greater transparency we are striving for in all things ICANN.</div>
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<b>To</b>: "Mathieu Weill" <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, "Chartier, Mike S" <<a href="mailto:mike.s.chartier@intel.com" target="_blank">mike.s.chartier@intel.com</a>><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<b>Subject</b>: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] DOCUMENT - Rec 11 - GAC Advice (first reading)</div></div></span><div><div class="h5">
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<div>Mathieu — Regarding formal advice from any Advisory Committee (AC), many commenters reiterated that a rationale should be a <u>requirement</u> for advice to be considered by the board. (BC, NPOC, Google, USCIB, RySG, Valideus, the US Chamber, RrSG, NCUC, I2C, Intel, IPC)</div>
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<div>It’s not enough to require that each AC "will make every effort”. </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, January 18, 2016 at 3:10 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, Mike Chartier <<a href="mailto:mike.s.chartier@intel.com" target="_blank">mike.s.chartier@intel.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] DOCUMENT - Rec 11 - GAC Advice (first reading)</span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Good catch indeed. Precisely the point of our first reading exercise. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">So we will add this to recommendation 11 agenda item tomorrow. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I will note that the current annex includes a related recommendation : </span></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:40pt"><span><span lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Insert a mention for all ACs: “The AC will make every effort to ensure that the advice provided is clear and supported by a rationale.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">De :</span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 18 janvier 2016 05:30<br>
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<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] DOCUMENT - Rec 11 - GAC Advice (first reading)</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Good point and good catch. This should not have been overlooked.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Chartier, Mike S <<a href="mailto:mike.s.chartier@intel.com" target="_blank">mike.s.chartier@intel.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p><span><span lang="EN-US">I think this is another illustration of how we need to be careful in documenting the process for handling comments (other than the Boards). For Recommendation 11 several commenters offered the proposal to add a requirement for GAC advice to be accompanied by a rationale. Given the general acceptance of proposals for rationales in other areas, I would have thought it would have at least been given a note in the prep document.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span lang="EN-US">Look forward to discussing on Tues.</span></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2016 12:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank"> accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] DOCUMENT - Rec 11 - GAC Advice (first reading)</span></span></p>
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