<div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">Dear Paul.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">Thank you very much for your kind words and your judgment  ??</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">I have fully understood
the entire process as I have been involved in another entity which also applied
IRP.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">Perhaps I was
not clear in my previous message.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">What I said
was there should be a process to clearly distinguish between those allegations
which merits to be further pursued and those which would not merit.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">I do not
think that the purpose of IRP is that every day tens of allegations based on
just a <span> </span>personal judgement of an
individual without any valid reasons and without any foundation <span> </span>invoke IRP,unless we create occupation of the
panelist and those will get those position .This would give rise to misuse of
the IRP.</span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:14pt">Kavouss</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-01-25 17:05 GMT+01:00 Paul Rosenzweig <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Kavouss<br>
<br>
Then, I think y ou have misunderstood the IRP process altogether.  It is<br>
open to any materially affected party to challenge a Board action as counter<br>
to the Bylawas, and most notably the mission.  That, indeed, is the single<br>
most essential part of the entire accountability process -- a standard of<br>
Board conduct and an independent review of that conduct.  Without it we have<br>
no accountability at all<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Paul Rosenzweig<br>
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<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:34 AM<br>
To: Paul Rosenzweig &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;; Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;;<br>
ICANN &lt;<a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>&gt;; Thomas Rickert &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>&gt;;<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;; Sidley ICANN CCWG &lt;<a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>&gt;;<br>
Greeley, Amy E. &lt;<a href="mailto:AGreeley@sidley.com">AGreeley@sidley.com</a>&gt;; Grapsas, Rebecca<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com">rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers&#39; High Level Review: Annexes 1, 8, 9, 10, 11<br>
<br>
Dear Paul<br>
Then that allegation against ICANN , decision should go trough all steps of<br>
process.<br>
I do not believe that an individual should simply make an allegation to the<br>
Board, s decision without passing through an established procedure otherwise<br>
tens of allegations called for every day .that was not the objectives of<br>
IRP.Such inefficient course of action would totally counterproductive and<br>
detriment to the healthy process of ICANN works Regards Kavouss<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:22, Paul Rosenzweig<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dear Kavous<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If and only if the person materially being affected by the Board<br>
&gt; decision makes a colorable allegation that the Board&#39;s actions are<br>
&gt; inconsistent with the bylaws ....  Whether or not they are actually<br>
&gt; inconsistent is for the IRP to decide, in the end ...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Paul<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul Rosenzweig<br>
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&gt; Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<br>
&gt; Link to my PGP Key<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:55 AM<br>
&gt; To: Paul Rosenzweig &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;; Greg Shatan<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;; ICANN &lt;<a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>&gt;; Thomas<br>
&gt; Rickert &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>&gt;;<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;; Sidley ICANN CCWG<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>&gt;; Greeley, Amy E. &lt;<a href="mailto:AGreeley@sidley.com">AGreeley@sidley.com</a>&gt;;<br>
&gt; Grapsas, Rebecca &lt;<a href="mailto:rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com">rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers&#39; High Level Review: Annexes 1, 8, 9,<br>
&gt; 10, 11<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dear Sir,<br>
&gt; Yes , if and only if the Board,s decision is INCONSISTENT with  or  in<br>
&gt; violation of Bylaws?!!!!<br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; Kavouss<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:48, Paul Rosenzweig<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Dear Kavouss<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; No IRP will review GAC advice.  But the community did agree<br>
&gt;&gt; (overwhelmingly) that IRP review would apply to Board decisions in<br>
&gt;&gt; response to GAC advice, which is, of course, exactly what Malcolm<br>
&gt;&gt; posits<br>
&gt; ...<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Paul<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Paul Rosenzweig<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a><br>
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&gt;&gt; Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<br>
&gt;&gt; Link to my PGP Key<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:45 AM<br>
&gt;&gt; To: Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Cc: Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Paul Rosenzweig<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt;; ICANN<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>&gt;; Thomas Rickert &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>&gt;;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sidley ICANN CCWG &lt;<a href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>&gt;; Greeley, Amy E.<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:AGreeley@sidley.com">AGreeley@sidley.com</a>&gt;; Grapsas, Rebecca &lt;<a href="mailto:rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com">rebecca.grapsas@sidley.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers&#39; High Level Review: Annexes 1, 8, 9,<br>
&gt;&gt; 10, 11<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Dear All,<br>
&gt;&gt; Perhaps people totally forgotten that NO IRP SHALL BE INVOKED BY THE<br>
&gt;&gt; COMMUNITY.<br>
&gt;&gt; FOR GAC ADVICE.<br>
&gt;&gt; This has been discussed  and confirmed .pls refer ti WP 2 and CCWG<br>
&gt;&gt; previous NOTES and REPORTS Regards Kavouss<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:57, Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24/01/2016 21:32, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Paul,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was halfway through writing an email that said exactly that.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This may be due to the lawyers re-interpreting &quot;duly taken into<br>
account&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in a way that I don&#39;t agree with and which I think is incorrect.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I also agree that this would be a substantial change.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; To support that, I would ask you to consider the follow, not<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; unlikely, scenario.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The GAC has advised the Board to do something, but what it has<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; advised is not entirely clearly, and there is certainly ambiguity as<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; to how it might be implemented. The Board has then done something. A<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; materially affected party, unhappy with the Board&#39;s action and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; preferring an alternative that would take a more extreme view of the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; GAC advice, challenges the action in the IRP. The Board takes the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; view that it has taken the GAC&#39;s advice into account and that what<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; it has done is reasonably consistent with the GAC advice; the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; complainant argues that the action was not consistent with it.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; If the IRP finds that factually the complainant is correct to allege<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; that the Board&#39;s action was not consisistent with the GAC advice,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; what is the consequence of that? It seems to vary according to which<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; standard we choose:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - If the current standard applies, that the Board &quot;duly take into<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; account&quot; GAC advice, the IRP may still find that the Board did do that:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; since they noted the GAC&#39;s advice, considered it, and believed<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; (albeit<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; incorrectly) that what they were doing constituted a reasonably<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; implementation of it, it is hard to say they did not meet this standard.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The IRP will however order the Board that to bring itself back into<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; compliance with the bylaws it must notify the GAC that it has acted<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; inconsistently, and try to find a mutually acceptable solution. The<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; action, however, may stand: a solution need not necessarily involve<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; cancelling the action, but might be found through supplementing the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; action with another.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - If Holly&#39;s standard applies, that the Board &quot;must not act<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; inconsistently&quot; with GAC advice, then the mere finding that the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Board has acted inconsistently invalidates that decision. The action<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; must be quashed, if it is possible to do so; failure to do so would<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; consistute perpetuating the bylaws breach.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; This is a material change, that may significantly affect the outcome.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Personally, I do not believe this change is needed or desirable. For<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; that reason, I respectfully disagree with accepting Holly&#39;s advice<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; on this particular case.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Kind Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Malcolm.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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