<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Holly </div><div>Dear Rosemary</div><div>Thank you again very much for the analysis that you have done in regard with the description or definination of &quot; Sole Desugnator&quot; taking into account views expressed by Bruce, Grec and Jordan.</div><div>Now we need a formal / official definition or descrition of &quot; Sole Designator&quot; and its exacrt Role Responsibility, and Ruthority, withourt USING ETC WHICH IS NOT A LEGAL TERM </div><div>That terms shall be included in the Glossay and /or Bylaws .This is fundamental issue and must be clearly mentioned as an explicit term </div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-01-28 1:26 GMT+01:00 Nigel Roberts <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Like us all, it has feet of clay.<span><br>
<br>
On 27/01/16 20:56, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span>
Jordan,<br>
<br>
Succinct and accurate.  Thank you.<br>
<br>
I will just emphasize and reiterate one part of your message:  The<br>
Empowered Community &quot;has all the powers we will give it through the<br>
ICANN bylaws&quot; including the power to appoint and remove directors.<br>
Since this last power is defined by California statute as the<br>
&quot;designator&quot; right, we have been calling the &quot;Empowered Community&quot; the<br>
&quot;Sole Designator,&quot; and vice versa.<br>
<br>
If one wants to see the &quot;powers&quot; of the Empowered Community/Sole<br>
Designator Entity (ECSDE?) one just needs to look at the community<br>
powers in our proposal.  Where the community comes together (more or<br>
less) as one, that&#39;s the ECSDE.<br>
<br>
Of course, we should come up with a better name for this and use only<br>
one name rather than two, which has sowed confusion.  One suggestion:<br>
  Good Old Legal Empowerment Mechanism (GOLEM).<br>
<br>
I feel this is all clear.<br>
<br>
Greg<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Jordan Carter &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a><br></span><span>
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
    Dear all, dear Kavouss<br>
<br>
    I don&#39;t feel any questions on my part are missing.<br>
<br>
    I am clear and I think from this whole thread, it is clear to<br>
    everyone that there is one entity - the Empowered Community.  It is<br>
    established as an unincorporated association, and it has all the<br>
    powers we will give it through the ICANN bylaws. One of those powers<br>
    is appointment and removal of directors. It can back those powers up<br>
    in Court if need be because it is recognised as a Designator under<br>
    the law of California.<br>
<br>
    So: the powers are set out in the bylaws as per our report. The<br>
    single entity is the Empowered Community. It is the Sole Designator.<br>
<br>
    I&#39;m happy and don&#39;t need any legal input, and my reading is that we<br>
    are all on the same page.<br>
<br>
<br>
    bests<br>
    Jordan<br>
<br>
<br>
    On 28 January 2016 at 03:44, Kavouss Arasteh<br></span><span>
    &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
        Dear Holly<br>
        No ,you have not said any thingabout the claim of Some people<br>
        providing all and every power for the &quot; Empowred Community&quot;/&quot;<br>
        Sole Designator &quot; versus what Bruce said and versus what Jordan<br>
        said ( with which I fuklly agreed ) .<br>
        You said the following<br>
        Quote<br></span>
        &quot;/does not adequately describe the other important roles for the<span><br>
        new entity, which extend well beyond the rights given to<br></span>
        designators by California corporate law/&quot;<span><br>
        Unquote<br>
        The wexpression / part of what you have said  &quot; which extend<br>
        well beyond the rights given to designators by California<br>
        corporate law&quot;<br>
        This portion is totally vague and does not any thing as requested<br>
        Pls kindly and specifically , if you wish and if you respect me<br>
        what is the role, responsibilities and authorities of the  &quot;<br></span>
        *Empowred Community&quot;/&quot; Sole Designator &quot; in regard *with what<span><br>
        contained in the Article of incorporation, and proposed Bylaws.<br>
        As you have noted the views of ICANN is ,for instance, right of<br>
        ispection is reserved for the COMMUNITY AND NOT the Sole<br>
        designtor . See read ICANN Comments ( Bruce as well ), Grec&#39;s<br>
        Comments and Jordan Comments<br>
        Regards<br>
        Kavouss<br>
<br>
        2016-01-27 15:20 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a><br></span>
        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<span><br>
<br>
            Hello Kavous,<br>
<br>
            I don&#39;t understand what other study is required in this. The<br>
            lawyers have provided the clarification required(indicating<br>
            theroles and the relevant vehicles to exercise them) and if<br>
            the 3 you mentioned have a different opinion then they would<br>
            have indicated it (I note that Greg already acknowledged the<br>
            response from legal).<br>
<br>
            I don&#39;t think there is need(neither is it economical) to<br>
            further utilise legal hours on this unless you specifically<br>
            indicate what area is not clear to you as a person (which is<br>
            yet to be explained).<br>
<br>
            Regards<br>
<br>
            On 27 Jan 2016 14:58, &quot;Kavouss Arasteh&quot;<br>
            &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br></span><span>
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
                Dear Holly<br>
                Dear  Rosemary<br>
                Thank you very much for definition<br>
                However, the problem that was raised was not the<br>
                definition but the scope of responsibility and mandate<br>
                There were three options<br>
                View one; From Bruce<br>
                View Two  FromGrec<br>
                View three;From Jordan<br>
                Please kindly carefully study these three and comment in<br>
                favour of one or other or a combination of those three.<br>
                The three designator came first from you in APRIL 2015<br>
                tHE eMPOWERED cOMMUNITY CASE FROM THE ccwg discussion.<br>
                I agree that the latter is more appropriate but the<br>
                problem raised was different as described above.<br>
                Either you wish to reply or not but please kindly reply<br>
                to the question raised<br>
                Regards<br>
                Kavouss<br>
<br>
                2016-01-27 6:53 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji<br></span>
                &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<span><br>
<br>
                    Thanks a lot Rosemary that answers my question<br>
                    perfectly.<br>
<br>
                    Regards<br>
<br>
                    On 27 Jan 2016 6:47 a.m., &quot;Rosemary E. Fei&quot;<br></span>
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:rfei@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rfei@adlercolvin.com" target="_blank">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
                    wrote:<br>
<br>
                        Dear Sean and all:____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<span><br>
<br>
                        You are correct.  The power to designate (and<br>
                        correspondingly to remove) directors is one of<br>
                        the powers that will be given to the Empowered<br>
                        Community in the Bylaws. You could also say that<br>
                        acting as ICANN’s “sole designator” is one of<br>
                        the Empowered Community’s roles in the proposed<br>
                        accountability structure, along with other roles<br>
                        and powers that will also be given to the<br></span>
                        Empowered Community in the Bylaws. ____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<span><br>
<br>
                        The Empowered Community could be given the other<br>
                        powers (except the removal right) without giving<br>
                        it the power to designate directors – those<br>
                        other powers can legally be given to any third<br>
                        party, not just one that holds designator<br></span>
                        powers.____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<br>
<br>
                        I hope that answers your question.____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<br>
<br>
                        Rosemary____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<br>
<br>
                        *From:*Seun Ojedeji<br>
                        [mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt;]<br>
                        *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:41 PM<br>
                        *To:* Holly Gregory<br>
                        *Cc:* Thomas Rickert; ACCT-Staff; ICANN-Adler;<br>
                        Sidley ICANN CCWG;<br>
                        <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;;<span><br>
                        León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Mathieu Weill<br></span>
                        *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Nomenclature re<span><br>
                        &quot;Empowered Community&quot;: ICANN Board comments -<br></span>
                        Recommendation 3 - Fundamental Bylaws____<br>
<br>
                        __ __<span><br>
<br>
                        Thank you Holly for the clarification. This has<br></span>
                        been my understanding as well.____<span><br>
<br>
                        One other thing that I would appreciate if<br>
                        clarified is to know whether the &quot;empowered<br>
                        community&quot; is able to carry out the other roles<br>
                        (like approval of bylaws et all) because it is<br>
                        the designator or just because it is the<br>
                        unincorporated entity setup as the third party<br></span>
                        to perform those roles in the bylaw.____<span><br>
<br>
                        In other words the unincorporated entity doubles<br>
                        as both the designator (with the power as<br>
                        described under California law) and the<br>
                        &quot;enhanced community&quot; (with the other powers as<br></span>
                        described in the bylaw).____<br>
<br>
                        Regards____<span><br>
<br>
                        On 26 Jan 2016 9:38 p.m., &quot;Gregory, Holly&quot;<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a><br></span>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:____<span><br>
<br>
                        Dear CCWG-ACCT Co-Chairs, Members, Participants<br></span>
                        and Staff, ____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        We have been monitoring the recent discussion on<br>
                        the CCWG-ACCT listserv about the use of the<br>
                        terms “community”, “Empowered Community”, and<br>
                        “Sole Designator” in the draft Proposal, and we<br></span>
                        wish to share our understanding of these terms.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        We agree that the word “community” as used in<br>
                        the draft Proposal encompasses not only ICANN’s<br>
                        Board and all of its SOs and ACs and their<br>
                        individual members, but also those who<br>
                        participate in ICANN meetings and processes, as<br>
                        explained by Bruce Tonkin in his January 24<br></span>
                        email.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        “Empowered Community” is the name to be given to<br>
                        an unincorporated association to be created in<br>
                        ICANN’s Bylaws.  This new entity has also been<br>
                        described as the “Sole Designator,” but that<br>
                        term -- which arose from the new entity’s<br>
                        function as ICANN’s sole designator -- does not<br>
                        adequately describe the other important roles<br>
                        for the new entity, which extend well beyond the<br>
                        rights given to designators by California<br>
                        corporate law.  Therefore,  the “Empowered<br>
                        Community” is a more appropriate reference, and<br>
                        it has been used interchangeably with “Sole<br></span>
                        Designator” to date. ____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        As a global final edit, we recommend using<br>
                        “Empowered Community” consistently to refer to<br>
                        the new legal entity, after the first discussion<br></span>
                        of the sole designator concept. ____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        Kind regards, ____<br>
<br>
                        Hlly and Rosemary____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        *HOLLY**GREGORY*<br>
                        Partner<br>
<br>
                        *Sidley Austin LLP**<br>
                        *<a href="tel:%2B1%20212%20839%205853" target="_blank" value="+12128395853">+1 212 839 5853</a> &lt;tel:%2B1%20212%20839%205853&gt;<br>
                        <a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" target="_blank">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        *From:*<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;]<br>
                        *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan<br>
                        *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 11:42 PM<br>
                        *To:* Jordan Carter<br>
                        *Cc:* <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] ICANN Board comments<br>
                        - Recommendation 3 - Fundamental Bylaws____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        Recommendation 1 states:____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        . The entity created using the Sole Designator<br>
                        model will be referred to as the “Empowered<br></span>
                        Community.”____<br>
<br>
                        (Summary, Page 1, bullet point 3).____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        In other words the Sole Designator is the<br>
                        Empowered Community, and vice versa.  You are<br></span>
                        introducing a dichotomy where none exists.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        Greg____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jordan Carter<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a><br></span>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:____<span><br>
<br>
                        This isn&#39;t quite right - as far as I am aware<br>
                        the entity that is the Sole Designator will have<br>
                        the right to appoint and remove directors, and<br>
                        be the &#39;third party&#39; that can approve changes to<br>
                        Icann fundamental bylaws or block changes to<br></span>
                        Icann standard bylaws.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        I&#39;m not sure this is a revelation of any sort,<br>
                        or causes any confusion at all. These powers<br>
                        along with all the others will be set out in the<br>
                        bylaws, as has been the case all along. The only<br>
                        distinguishing feature is that the legislation<br>
                        in California gives designators the director<br>
                        rights, and gives the right of the articles /<br></span>
                        bylaws to include third party approvals.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        Even if people are confused about this, there is<br></span>
                        no problem in substance to resolve.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        Cheers____<br>
<br>
                        Jordan ____<span><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
                        On Monday, 25 January 2016, Seun Ojedeji<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a><br></span>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:____<br>
<br>
                        Hi Greg,____<span><br>
<br>
                        I don&#39;t think we are in disagreement in the<br>
                        substance of all these. It&#39;s just the naming we<br>
                        are in disagreement upon and I am still of the<br>
                        opinion that a designator only has the statutory<br></span>
                        power to remove/add board members. ____<span><br>
<br>
                        All other powers/process we have managed to put<br>
                        in the bylaw may need to be called/named<br>
                        something else as they are not made possible<br>
                        because of the designator but rather because of<br>
                        the fact that they are now written in the bylaw<br>
                        and the board normally would want to respect<br></span>
                        such a document.____<span><br>
<br>
                        In anycase, unless there is any other change you<br>
                        think has been proposed other than giving<br>
                        inspection rights to the community (which you<br>
                        and I are in agreement) that affects the current<br>
                        proposal,  I don&#39;t see any reason to still<br></span>
                        consider this open as such.____<br>
<br>
                        Regards____<span><br>
<br>
                        On 24 Jan 2016 18:02, &quot;Greg Shatan&quot;<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br></span>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:____<br>
<br>
                        Seun,____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        You misunderstand me.  The Designator does more<br>
                        than &quot;enforce&quot; powers.  Under our proposal, the<br>
                        designator is also the vehicle for<br></span>
                        _exercising_ a number of the powers (e.g.,<span><br>
                        approving/rejecting bylaws).  The exercise of<br>
                        the new powers by the designator will be a much<br>
                        more common occurrence than the enforcement of<br>
                        those powers by removing directors.  I<br>
                        anticipate the latter will rarely (if ever)<br>
                        occur, though the fact it can occur is part of<br>
                        our accountability framework.  There are other<br>
                        reasons for the Board to comply with the<br>
                        community&#39;s exercise of its powers, aside from<br>
                        sheer terror at being removed.  For one thing,<br>
                        these powers are enshrined in the bylaws, and<br>
                        the Board (like any Board) will not take the<br></span>
                        prospect of violating our Bylaws lightly.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        We have had a tendency to overemphasize the<br>
                        enforcement end of things, and I think this is<br>
                        one more action in that vein.  Let&#39;s try to<br>
                        avoid that.  Just like our proposal is about far<br>
                        more than &quot;enforcement,&quot; so is the Single<br></span>
                        Designator.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        So, no, your statement did not &quot;close this<br>
                        particular item.&quot;  Rather, it demonstrates<br></span>
                        exactly why this item is not really closed.____<br>
<br>
                        ____<br>
<br>
                        Greg____<br>
<br>
                        ____<span><br>
<br>
                        On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Seun Ojedeji<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a><br></span>
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<br>
                        On 24 Jan 2016 16:15, &quot;Greg Shatan&quot;<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br></span><span>
                        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                         &gt;<br>
                         &gt; I agree with the result the Board came to (at<br>
                        least in part), but not the reasoning.  Each SO<br>
                        or AC should have the right to inspect.<br>
                        However, the role of the Designator is not<br>
                        merely to &quot;add or remove Board members.&quot; The<br>
                        Designator plays a critical role in the exercise<br>
                        of several of the powers, in addition to its<br>
                        role in enforcing those powers via director<br>
                        removal.<br>
                         &gt;<br>
                        SO: I guess Bruce was rightly mentioning the<br>
                        powers of the designator. I believe we we will<br>
                        only be getting those powers enforced as a<br>
                        result of the &quot;add/remove&quot; power of the<br></span>
                        designator. ____<span><br>
<br>
                        So in summary we don&#39;t get enforcement of the<br>
                        various powers because it&#39;s a role of the<br>
                        designator but on the basis that the designator<br>
                        may use its only statutory power, which is to<br></span>
                        add/remove board members.____<span><br>
<br>
                        I generally agree with the result and would have<br>
                        even preferred that a threshold be required for<br>
                        inspection. However, on the basis that each<br>
                        SO/AC may need access to certain information to<br>
                        make informed/independent decisions, it makes<br></span>
                        sense to allow such right to each SO/AC.____<br>
<br>
                        Hopefully this close this particular item.____<br>
<br>
                        Regards____<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
                           on Recommendation 1.<br>
                         &gt;&gt;<br>
                         &gt;&gt; Just to provide a little more context in<br>
                        response to questions on the list.<br>
                         &gt;&gt;<br>
                         &gt;&gt; The role of the designator is to add or<br>
                        remove Board directors.   This role is<br>
                        enforceable under California law.<br>
                         &gt;&gt;<br>
                         &gt;&gt; The inspection right is a right for the ACs<br>
                        and SOs.   An AC or SO can exercise this right<br>
                        independently of the legal entity that will be<br>
                        the sole designator.     If ICANN doesn&#39;t<br>
                        respond to an appropriate request from an SO or<br>
                        AC, it would be in breach of its bylaws.   The<br>
                        community can then use the IRP to get a binding<br>
                        decision.    In the unlikely event that the<br>
                        Board does not comply with the outcome of the<br>
                        IRP decision, then the designator has the power<br>
                        to remove Board members.<br>
                         &gt;&gt;<br>
                         &gt;&gt; In the bylaws we want to make sure that we<br>
                        don&#39;t confuse the role of the designator (add or<br>
                        remove Board members) with the various roles of<br>
                        the SO and ACs in the bylaws.   The bylaws are<br>
                        primarily enforced by the IRP, and then the<br>
                        designator (via removal of Board directors) if<br>
                        the IRP is not complied with, and then the<br>
                        courts if the decision of the designator is not<br>
                        complied with.   This is a clear escalation path<br>
                        that applies to all bylaws.<br>
                         &gt;&gt;<br>
                         &gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
                         &gt;&gt; Bruce Tonkin<br>
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