<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Hello All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I thought the basis of the model was that either each so/ac would appoint a person to be the legal persons or a small number of nominated individuals (2 was discussed I think) would provide the required legal personhood but would not be empowered to do anything without instruction from the so/acs. We now seem to be heading back to a requirement that so/acs for lead entities in some way which is challenging for some to say the least! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Could we please get clarity on where we are at with this?<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Cheers,</p><p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251); min-height: 16px; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Chris</p>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Jan 2016, at 05:16 , Nigel Roberts <<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" class="">nigel@channelisles.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I don't mean to be pedantic about this, but are the SOs and ACs also going to be constituted as UAs???<br class=""><br class="">Otherwise, I see an issue -- surely to form the EC as a UA, the members of the UA need to be persons (whether natural or legal matters not).<br class=""><br class="">So it seems to me that all the SOs and ACs need to have legal personality.<br class=""><br class="">Or will the members of the EC just be the Chairs of the SOs and ACs in a personal capacity??<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 27/01/16 18:11, Gregory, Holly wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">We agree that the language that ALAC points to (reproduced directly<br class="">below) could be clarified:<br class=""><br class="">“ 3. On page 14, item 2 of the draft proposal (and on page 5 of Annex<br class="">1), it says "The members of the unincorporated association would be<br class="">representatives of ICANN's Supporting Organizations and Advisory<br class="">Committees that wish to participate." We have never discussed how<br class="">such members are identified. Presumably we should to specify that<br class="">each participating AC/SO must identify who it's representative will be.”<br class=""><br class="">The notion is that some persons are needed to ensure that the decisions<br class="">of the Empowered Community are implemented. While the participating SOs<br class="">and ACs will be members of the unincorporated association, each<br class="">participating SO and AC should have a representative , and for<br class="">simplicity we recommend that in each instance it be the chair of the AC<br class="">or SO. We have addressed this notion in our memo about implementation<br class="">of the unincorporated association, which we circulated a link to last<br class="">week in our high level comments regarding the IRP.<br class=""><br class="">HOLLY J. GREGORY<br class="">Partner and Co-Chair<br class="">Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice<br class=""><br class="">*Sidley Austin LLP**<br class="">*+1 212 839 5853<br class=""><a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" class="">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a> <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" class="">mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>><br class=""><br class="">*From:*<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br class="">[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf Of<br class="">*Seun Ojedeji<br class="">*Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:47 AM<br class="">*To:* Kavouss Arasteh<br class="">*Cc:* <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br class="">*Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Open ALAC Issues<br class=""><br class="">Well even if we don't need it now. It will be good to recognise that<br class="">it's yet to be discussed. However considering that the UA is required<br class="">once board approves the proposal then it may be good to determine and<br class="">conclude on this soon enough.<br class=""><br class="">That said, it may be good to be sure that those member representatives<br class="">have no power to act unilaterally. I would have thought using 1 stone to<br class="">kill to birds will be good i.e making the various chairs/leaders of<br class="">SO/AC to serve is such capacity. That gives some level of responsibility<br class="">and security on that various SO/AC can always boot out their leader<br class="">whenever required.<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class=""><br class="">On 27 Jan 2016 15:02, "Kavouss Arasteh" <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" class="">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" class="">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Dear All,<br class=""><br class="">I think people contuinue to go to the last milimiter of the road and<br class="">generate a new discussion and debate about the number of représentatives<br class="">in Unincorprated associattion représentatives and start a new round of<br class="">bebates and dispute<br class=""><br class="">Do we need this information now pls ?<br class=""><br class="">Kavouss<br class=""><br class="">2016-01-27 6:14 GMT+01:00 Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class="">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class="">mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>>:<br class=""><br class="">As per my comment in the CCWG meeting earlier today, here is a list of<br class="">the issues still to be resolved from the ALAC statement on the 3rd Draft<br class="">Proposal.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">There are three issues currently under discussion.<br class=""><br class="">1. ICANN Mission and ensuring that contract provisions will not be<br class="">invalidated or be unenforceable.<br class=""><br class="">2. The issue regarding market mechanisms.<br class=""><br class="">3. Human Rights (original issue resolved but pending final wording).<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Issues to be addressed.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">1. The first is a relatively trivial one and easily addressed. Rec# 4,<br class="">in the section on replacing the Interim Board states:<br class=""><br class="">"SOs, ACs, and the Nominating Committee will develop replacement<br class="">processes that ensure the Interim Board will not be in place for more<br class="">than 120 days."<br class=""><br class="">The ALAC request that this be changed to:<br class=""><br class="">"SOs, ACs, and the Nominating Committee will develop processes designed<br class="">to replace Interim Board members within 120 days."<br class=""><br class="">By removing the word "ensure", this change, while not altering the<br class="">intent, goes along with the recent practice of not putting hard<br class="">deadlines in the Bylaws, deadlines that for one reason or another may<br class="">not be met in a particular instance.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">2. Rec# 10, AoC. The Recommendation suggests that as part of<br class="">organizational reviews, the AC/SO's accountability be included in the<br class="">review. The ALAC suggests that this be enshrined in Article IV, Section<br class="">4.1 of the ICANN Bylaws.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">3. On page 14, item 2 of the draft proposal (and on page 5 of Annex 1),<br class="">it says "The members of the unincorporated association would be<br class="">representatives of ICANN's Supporting Organizations and Advisory<br class="">Committees that wish to participate." We have never discussed how such<br class="">members are identified. 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