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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Mark Carvell<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 1. Februar 2016 17:19<br>
<b>An:</b> Finn Petersen &lt;FinPet@erst.dk&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Recommendation 11, 2/3 board threshold, GAC consensus, and finishing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As you know, the UK Government supports Recommendation 11. I believe there is support outside the GAC for the 2/3 threshold for rejection of GAC advice.&nbsp;&nbsp;I agree
 that there is potential in Becky's proposal for a compromise solution for obviating the double opportunity risk. &nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">While the GAC would not participating in some potentially critical decisions under this arrangement, the community should recognise the value of the GAC providing
 advice in the form of guidance that <i>inter alia</i> recounts the rationale for its original advice to the Board.&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I also suggest more generally that some&nbsp;formality is accorded to the process whereby any non-participating AC can provide advice, in order to ensure that such
 advice when received&nbsp;is duly recorded, taken fully into account and responded to, before the participating SO/ACs proceed to a decision.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mark&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark Carvell<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 February 2016 at 13:22, Finn Petersen &lt;<a href="mailto:FinPet@erst.dk" target="_blank">FinPet@erst.dk</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear Becky, Co-chairs, all,</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As we have stated in the Danish comments to the CCWG 3rd Draft Proposal, we fully support
 Recommendation 11. We believe it is a carefully drafted compromise, which we hoped (and still do) would achieve the support such a compromise deserves in order to move the CCWG proposal forward.&nbsp; We would also like to remind colleagues that the 2/3 threshold
 for the ICANN Board rejecting GAC consensus advice was agreed by the GAC in the GAC Communiqué Dublin.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">However</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">,
 we feel Becky’s proposal is a very constructive way forward and is worth discussing further. It would also eliminate the need to do a poll at the CCWG-meeting tomorrow morning. It would be unfortunate go down that road at this moment in time as it seems that
 Becky’s proposal addresses some of the concerns expressed. Also it is not clear to us whether the result (based on the recent discussion on the list) would take us any further in our work.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ICANN’s communities need not be further divided – it is time for convergence and compromise!</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>På vegne af </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 29. januar 2016 21:05<br>
<b>Til:</b> Greg Shatan; Mueller, Milton L<br>
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<b>Emne:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Recommendation 11, 2/3 board threshold, GAC consensus, and finishing</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 including the Mission.&nbsp; What if we accept the 2/3rd rejection language but also provide that the GAC cannot act in a decision-making role with respect to an exercise of community power designed to challenge the Board’s implementation of GAC Advice.&nbsp; In other
 words, the GAC &nbsp;would not be counted in the “no more than two SO/ACs objecting” threshold to a community IRP challenge to the Board’s implementation of GAC Advice alleged to exceed the scope of ICANN’s Mission.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">J. Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#262626">
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, January 29, 2016 at 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Mueller, Milton L&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Accountability Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Recommendation 11, 2/3 board threshold, GAC consensus, and finishing</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 answer to my question.&nbsp; I wanted to see if I had overlooked positive support for the 2/3 majority as such.&nbsp; It appears that (subject to further responses) I have not.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It was clear from the earlier (pre-transition) process that there was virtually no positive
 support outside GAC for the proposition that the board could only reject its advice with a 2/3 majority. There was, in fact, overwhelming opposition to the 2/3 threshold.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Insofar as that idea gained acceptance (not support), it was perceived as a compromise
 that would help the GAC to accept a requirement that it continue to act on the basis of UN consensus.
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 “is there any affirmative support for the 2/3 threshold?” </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F4E79">outside the GAC is clearly no.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 29, 2016 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Greenberg &lt;<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Recommendation 11, 2/3 board threshold, GAC consensus, and finishing</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 of the other participants, even where it did not really agree with that position.&nbsp; Every stakeholder and stakeholder structure has done that, here (and in every other WG, I assume), to avoid being an outlier and to honor the building of consensus.&nbsp; This is
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 jump to conclusions, but I prefer not to.&nbsp; Hence the question, which I think is quite relevant.&nbsp; First, if I go back to my constituency and tell them that we are the outlier and this has broad multistakeholder support, that may be persuasive to some of them,
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That is a simple question, but not a particularly relevant one in my mind. I and ALAC have accepted a LOT of things that we do not believe &quot;is a good idea, or enhances ICANN's accountability, or corrects a problem/deficiency in the Bylaws, or is needed for
 the transition&quot;. So have other parts of the community. <br>
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I would ask the opposite. What is the HARM? The overall number of times that GAC advice is rejected is small. I find it hard to imagine that there will be any substantive difference in outcomes in the future with the two alternatives. If people want to die
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At 28/01/2016 06:24 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Aside from members of the GAC, is there any affirmative support for the 2/3 threshold?&nbsp; In other words, does any member or participant think that this is a good idea, or enhances ICANN's accountability, or corrects a problem/deficiency in the Bylaws, or is
 needed for the transition? How about any chartering organization or constituent part of a chartering organization?<br>
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I'm not asking about the value of compromise, or the effect (or lack thereof) of the change, or whether it's something you can live with.&nbsp; I'm asking about affirmative support.<br>
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank"> kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">GAC did not formally reject the Rec 11 in announcing that &quot; no consensus is reached &quot; GNSO and its spokemen push for their objection, GAC must formally reject the Recommendation as currently GAC lost o-1 because of Stress
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">WIN-WIN YES, loose-loose yes ,for every body BUT NOT LOOSE FOR gac and win for the others .</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">THAT IS NOT FAIR </span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:#888888">Kavouss&nbsp; </span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">2016-01-28 23:45 GMT&#43;01:00 Andrew Sullivan &lt;<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a> &gt;:</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:26:54PM &#43;0000, Jeff Neuman wrote:</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&gt; Where in writing has the GAC stated that it will reject the accountability proposal of the 2/3 threshold is not in there.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I didn't intend to suggest that they'd stated that in writing, but</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">rather to suggest that the GAC had consensus around the 2/3 number.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">But this'll teach me to go from memory, because I was relying on my</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">recollection of the Dublin communiqé.&nbsp; In fact it does not exactly say</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">that the GAC has consensus about the 2/3 threshold, so I'm wrong.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I still believe that the compromise position is an effective way</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">forward that actually gives no additional real power to the GAC</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">(because of the new Empowered Community) while yet granting the 2/3</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">number that many seem to think is important.&nbsp; But the claim in favour</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">of 2/3 is indeed weaker given the GAC's stated positions.</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Best regards,</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Andrew Sullivan</span><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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