<div dir="ltr"><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><br></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><strong><font color="#0000ff" size="4">1. REPLY TO MIKE</font></strong></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Dear Mr. Chartier </span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">( you called me Mr. Arasteh then I have to do and apply the same rule calling you Mr. Chartier9</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Thanky you for your message</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><br></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">You said at the begining of your message the following</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><br></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><strong><font size="6">Quote</font></strong></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font size="6"><br></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><em><font size="6">"<font color="#ff0000">Dear Mr. Arasteh,<u></u><u></u></font></font></em></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><em><font color="#ff0000" size="6">I understand where you are coming from."</font></em></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="6">Unquote</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">Unfortunately this is not a friendly question and perhaps offensive ,if not insultation </font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">I never ever asked and even know where are you come from.This is not my business not business of CCWG .</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">I FULLY RESPECT EVERY AND ALL NATIONS AND SIMILARLY EVERY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUES NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM, AND WHAT AFFILIATION THEY HAVE .</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">The purpose of the CCWG is not raising the question of or statement relating to nationaly , race, colour, religeion, conviction ,political adherance and so on.</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4">We are just a group of freinds ,colleagues ,getting together and collaborating with each other to contribute to the ICANN accountability.</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4">Therefore, I consider, your question was not only hostile, offensive but totally irrelevant and I therefore respectfully request you to kindly refrain to make such an unfriendly and non ethical statement</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4">I think every one of us must respect each other and evenif disagree with one other observe mutual respect and spirit of ICANN code of conduct .</font></span></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br></span></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">As for the substance of your views on the alternatives 7 options , I fully respect your views as I respects views of others.</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4">I think every one of us must </font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4"><br></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4"><strong><u>2. Reply to Grec</u></strong></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><strong><u><font color="#000000" size="4">Thank you for your message</font></u></strong></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><strong><u><font color="#000000" size="4">You said the following:</font></u></strong></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><strong><u><font color="#000000" size="4">Quote:</font></u></strong></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><div class="MsoNormal"><strong><font size="4">"Furthermore, <font color="#ff0000">I would note that the proposal, although originally made by Kavouss in a long and multi-branched email string, <font size="6">received <u>no attention</u> </font>until I placed it in an entirely new email and brought it to the specific attention of the CCWG.</font> It was my email that initiated discussion of the 60% proposal. Therefore, I think it should more appropriately be called my proposal in any event. <font color="#0000ff"><u>I graciously allowed it to be called "Kavouss's proposal"; </u></font>however, based on the facts, that is clearly a misnomer, since the work of the group is based on my email. I would therefore request that the 60% proposal henceforth be called "Greg's Proposal."</font></strong></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong>Unquote</strong></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong>Dear Grec</strong></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong>What you have stated does not reflect the reality.Befroe I started my e-mails ,painted by you as </strong><strong><font color="#ff0000" size="4">multi-branched email string, <font color="#0000ff" size="2">I raised the issue in a CCWG CALL..<font color="#000000">havind said that , in my view , it does not matter who proposed the option, I am just interested in the proposal and not the author of the proposal.</font></font></font></strong></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong><font color="#000000" size="2">Thank you for your generosity to allow that the proposal be called my proposal ,But I have withdrawn my proposal therefroe your gracious action and generosity is no longer relevant as I HAVE NO PROPOSAL.</font></strong></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong><font color="#000000" size="2">FR ME DOESN^T MATTER IF TAKEN UP BY SOMEBODY LIKE YOU AND BECALLED "<font color="#ff0000" size="4">GREC PROPOSAL"</font></font></strong></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><font face="Calibri">Having said that, I respectfully request you to kindly refrain to make such an unfriendly and non ethical statement</font><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#000000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4">I think every one of us must respect each other and evenif disagree with one other observe mutual respect and spirit of ICANN code of conduct .</font></span></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Now let us back to work</span></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards</span></font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kavouss </span></font></span></div></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><strong><font color="#000000" size="2"><font color="#ff0000" size="4"> </font></font></strong></div></font><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div></span><div class="MsoNormal"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-03 7:03 GMT+01:00 Nigel Roberts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Kavouss<br>
<br>
Thank you for using a blank line between paragraphs in your latest email.<br>
<br>
I didn't want to say anything before about this, because I didn't want to seem rude or pedantic; nonetheless it really does make your emails much easier to read.<br>
<br>
I'd appreciate it if you continue!<br>
<br>
Thanks again<span><br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/02/16 23:20, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span>
Dear CCWG members and participants<br>
<br>
Dear GAC Members<br>
<br>
At CCWG call 81 ,in discussing REC.11 Annex 11 there was two<br>
alternatives for rejection of GAC Advice by the Board<br>
<br></span>
1.<br>
<br>
2/3 Majority<br>
<br>
2.<span><br>
<br>
Simple MAJORITY<br>
<br>
Since there was a lengthy discussion, I proposed a compromise of 60%<br>
instead of THRESHOLD IN 1) and 2) above WITHOUT TOUCHING ANY ELEMENT OF<br>
rec.1 which was accepted by consensus<br>
<br>
Someone talked about a creative action and proposed to retain 2/3<br>
Majority in Rec.11 .Annex 11 but modify REC 1 by adding a phrase at<br>
paragraph 23 of that Rec , if I am not mistaken.<br>
<br>
That proposal was made by Beckie .<br>
<br>
These two proposal were on the table without being mutually inclusive<br>
<br>
Today I observed that people not only wants to Modify Rec 1 ; disabling<br>
GAC to exercise its community power not to be counted as one of the TWO<br>
SO/AC IN CASE other part of comity invoke IRP in regard with ICANN<br>
action relating to GAC Advice alleged to exceed ICANN Mission while<br>
maintaining 2/3 majority in Rec 11 BUT ALSO LOWERING THAT THRESHOLD TO 60%<br>
<br>
This combination is inconsistent with my proposal<br>
<br>
Moreover such course of action has not formally been approved, even if<br>
unilaterally suggested by some people at the meeting and thus such<br>
amended proposal was not formally given to Beckie Group to discuss .<br>
<br>
Since the proponent of amended BECKIE PROPOSAL insisting on his views,<br>
<br></span>
*_I have formally withdrawn my initial 60% threshold proposal_*and<br>
stated that _apart from Beckie initial proposal_, *no other alternative<br>
proposal could discussed at Beckie’s group without the approval of CCWG*<span><br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Kavouss .<br>
<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:58 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
PAUL<br>
There is no evidence that such decision was made by consensus<br>
People might have said many thing<br>
You can not just referring to unilateral statement in transcsript<br>
and take it as a consensus proposal<br>
Pls transcript is transcrip those people who have spoken must<br>
understand that there is no valuse on unilateral decision .We are<br>
member of a group any decision for study must be AGREED BY EVERY BODY<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:54 GMT+01:00 Paul Rosenzweig<br>
<<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
Kavouss<br>
<br>
You are wrong. I read the transcript.<br>
<br>
Sorry<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
--<br>
Paul Rosenzweig<br>
Sent from myMail app for Android<br>
<br>
Tuesday, 02 February 2016, 05:53PM -05:00 from Kavouss Arasteh<br></span>
<<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
<br>
Dear Paul<br>
<br>
I am very sorry to tell you that:<br>
<br>
Our mandate is limited to discuss the initial Becky’s<br>
proposal and mine only<br>
<br>
Since I withdrew mine, if you want to make a new proposal<br>
that must be submitted to the next meeting of CCWG on 09<br>
Feb. 2016<br>
<br>
This group is not a test LAB for multiple number on proposal<br>
otherwise we will not end our work till 2017.<br>
<br>
You can offer your proposal to the next CCWG MEETING<br>
<br>
If agreed by consensus it will be discussed<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:46 GMT+01:00 Paul Rosenzweig<br>
<<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a><br></span>
<<a href="https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3apaul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3apaul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
That's ok. If process requires I will advance the<br>
Aratesh/Burr proposal under my own name. 😊<br>
<br>
--<br>
Paul Rosenzweig<br>
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<br>
Tuesday, 02 February 2016, 05:42PM -05:00 from Kavouss<br>
Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br></span>
<<a href="https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
<br>
Dear Becky<br>
Pls take out my proposal from the Table<br>
I formally withdraw MY PROPOSAL<br>
Tks Kavouss<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:34 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br></span>
<<a href="https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>>:<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Becky<br>
Your proposal did not have such statement<br>
Your proposal was clearly mentioned retaining<br>
2/3 and modifying Rec1 to have an overall<br>
acceptance.<br>
This will cause considerable poblem and create<br>
serious of open-ended argument<br>
My question to you was to clarify that your<br>
question did not refer toeither 60% or simple<br>
majority . Let us go back to the discussions on<br>
call 81 There was two alternative mentioned by<br>
Steve ,<br>
- 2/3<br>
SIMPLE MAJORITY<br>
I proposed a middfle ground 60%<br>
You then proposed that<br>
1.MOD. Rec 1 in disabling GAC not to<br>
participate in ommunity empowering exercise when<br>
IRP is invoked by community for Board's actions<br>
exceeding its Mission and<br>
2. Retain 2/3 as contained in Rec 11 Annex 11<br>
YOU NOW CHANGING YOUR PROPOSAL<br>
IT IS NOT ADMITTED. We agreed to work on your<br>
initial proposal and mine<br>
Now you implictly changing your proposal<br>
Disagree TO THAT course of action<br>
I case you insist I WILL IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW MY<br>
PROPOSAL AND THEN WE GO BACK TO ccwg and<br>
rediscuss REC 11<br>
Please kindly clarify your position<br>
Once again if there would be any link between<br>
your proposal and 60% Please remove my proposal<br>
from the Table and go ahead with your own<br>
proposal only<br>
I also disagree with any new proposal .We can<br>
not discuss for days and day for receiving<br>
creative proposal<br>
Let us be realistic rather than creative.<br>
Best Regards<br>
Kavouss<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:24 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><br></div></div>
<<a href="https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3akavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>>:<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Becky<br>
Your proposal did not have such statement<br>
Your proposal was clearly mentioned<br>
retaining 2/3 and modifying Rec1 to have an<br>
overall acceptance.<br>
This will cause considerable poblem and<br>
create serious of open-ended argument<br>
My question to you was to clarify that your<br>
question did not refer toeither 60% or<br>
simple majority . Let us go back to the<br>
discussions on call 81 There was two<br>
alternative mentioned by Steve ,<br>
- 2/3<br>
SIMPLE MAJORITY<br>
I proposed a middfle ground 60%<br>
You then proposed that<br>
1.MOD. Rec 1 in disabling GAC not to<br>
participate in ommunity empowering exercise<br>
when IRP is invoked by community for Board's<br>
actions exceeding its Mission and<br>
2. Retain 2/3 as contained in Rec 11 Annex 11<br>
YOU NOW CHANGING YOUR PROPOSAL<br>
iT IS NOT ADMITTED. We agreed to work on<br>
your initial proposal and mine<br>
Now you implictly changing your proposal<br>
Disagreed<br>
Regards<br>
Kavouss<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2016-02-02 23:10 GMT+01:00 Burr, Becky<br>
<<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a><br></div></div>
<<a href="https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aBecky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aBecky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
UPDATED:<br>
<br>
I have attempted to set out the<br></span>
proposals discussed last night. ____<br>
<br>
___ ___<br>
<br>
_Aresteh Proposal_:____<span><br>
<br>
Modify Rec. #11/ Annex 11 to provide<br>
that GAC Advice supported by consensus,<br>
defined as general agreement in the<br>
absence of a formal objection, may be<br>
rejected only by a vote of at least<br></span>
*60%* of the Board. All other<span><br>
requirements (e.g., rationale to be<br>
provided, etc.) unchanged. This proposal<br>
is strictly limited to Recommendation 11<br>
Annex 11 without any change to<br>
Recommendation 1 as it stands on 02<br></span>
February 2016.____<br>
<br>
_Hutty Gloss on 60% Threshold_: Add<span><br>
language to ensure that supermajority<br>
requirement creates no new expectation<br>
of approval or otherwise modify the<br>
Board’s standard of review of GAC<br></span>
Advice. ____<br>
<br>
_Burr Proposal_:____<br>
<br>
·Modify Rec #1/Annex 1: Add the<br>
following to the end of Paragraph 23. ____<br>
<br>
/The GAC may not, however, participate<span><br>
as a decision maker in the Empowered<br>
Community’s consideration of the<br>
exercise a community power for the<br>
purpose of challenging or blocking the<br>
Board’s implementation of GAC Advice. In<br>
such cases, the GAC remains free to<br>
participate in community deliberations<br>
in an advisory capacity, but its views<br>
will not count towards or against<br>
otherwise agreed thresholds needed to<br>
initiate a conference call, convene a<br>
Community Forum, or exercise a specific<br>
Community Power. This carve out<br>
preserves the ICANN Board’s unique<br>
obligation to work with the GAC try to<br>
find a mutually acceptable solution to<br>
implementation of GAC Advice supported<br>
by consensus (as defined in Rec. #11)<br>
while protecting the community’s power<br></span>
to challenge such Board decisions.____/<br>
<br>
//<br>
<br>
·Modify the Table in Rec. #2/Annex 2 to<span><br>
reflect this carve out and add the<br>
following language to cover situations<br>
that would otherwise require the support<br></span>
of four SOs or ACs:/____/<br>
<br>
/The CCWG-Accountability also recommends<span><br>
that in a situation where the GAC may<br>
not participate as a Decisional AC<br>
because the community power is proposed<br>
to be used to challenge the Board’s<br>
implementation of GAC Advice and the<br>
threshold is set at four in support, the<br>
power will still be validly exercised if<br>
three are in support and no more than<br></span>
one objects. ____/<span><br>
<br>
<br>
Kavouss has asked whether my proposal is<br>
paired to a 66% threshold, 60% threshold<br>
or simple majority for rejecting GAC<br>
Advice. It is not inconsistent with any<br>
of those outcomes.<br>
<br></span>
*J. Beckwith Burr****<br>
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