<div dir="ltr"><div>I also agree with Jorgethat we need to get a clear and firm mandate .We are not open to multiple totally new proposal.</div><div>Let us wait for the co-chairs</div><div>The more options ,the more discussion and more difficult to arrive at compromise.</div><div>I have heard the so-called " Every option is on the table " but.....</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-03 10:46 GMT+01:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I appreciate your message.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">However, what is sought is a formal answer and guidance by the co-chairs on all points already raised during yesterday’s
call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jordan Carter<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 10:37<br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Timing and agenda Thursday's call and options to be discussed?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought that the process and items were perfectly clear. I am not a co-chair and haven't discussed this with them, so I might be wrong, but read on if you like...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The two calls on Thursday and Monday should be seen as "working sessions" - they are being held to see if some consensus can be arrived at among the group about how to break the deadlock we find ourselves in.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Becky has ably set out the current proposal.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My view and understanding is that nothing is off the table in those discussions that is part of a constructive effort to arrive at a solution to Rec 11 (and if necessary consequential amendments to others) that we can, as a group, form
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<p class="MsoNormal">As such, nobody "owns" any proposals, and new ideas to break the deadlock are not only welcomed - they are positively encouraged.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Because both calls are Working meetings, the only topic is the above, and there isn't going to be any formal decision-making. That does not mean the co-chairs might not employ a range of approaches to see where the group is at, which might
include polling, but I am sure it does mean that NO DECISIONS per se will be finalised on either call.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just my tuppence.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3 February 2016 at 22:30, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree and not only because I have a hard stop at 13:00 on Thursday<br>
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So, if we did any polling, we'd need to do it before 13:00 tomorrow or<br>
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I do however again appoint Stephen Deerhake as Proxy should I be<br>
unable to make the poll, if any and would request Accountability Staff<br>
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On 2016-02-03 11:10, <a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a> wrote:<br>
> Dear Kavouss<br>
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> I fully understand your point.<br>
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> The more reason that the co-chairs should clarify what will be<br>
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